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In Buffalo's thread here titled "Will back to using his Nomad alt at MAD," he links us to the following post at the Mormon Dialogue & Discussion board by Nomad:

http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/563 ... 1209068019

The portion upon which I'd like to focus is this:

Nomad wrote:Will Schryver’s hypothesis never suggested that the Egyptian Alphabet and Grammar was intended to be used as a cipher.

Wait, what? I was under the impression that the entire point of Will Schryver's 2010 FAIR presentation was to convince us that the Egyptian Alphabet & Grammar project was to create a cipher as opposed to a translation.

In FAIRness, though, Nomad did add the following:

He only argued that it had qualities similar to a cipher in that they were taking existing texts and giving them substitute values.

Is that a distinction without a difference? You decide.

Anyway, Kevin Graham helpfully showed up a little later to correct Nomad vis-à-vis Schryver's intent. Kevin quoted Mr. Schryver himself as having said:

William Schryver wrote:...the Alphabet, Grammar, and Counting documents appear to have been intended to render the English text of the Prophet’s revelations into some kind of cipher that these men apparently believed to be typical of language as practiced by “the ancients.”

So, what do you think? Assuming for a moment that Buffalo is correct and Nomad and William Schryver are one and the same, does this mean that William is attempting to disavow, deny, or otherwise overturn his own much-ballyhooed "game changing" presentation at the 2010 FAIR conference? Because that sure is what it's looking like to me.

Corrections, clarifications, and alternate viewpoints welcome.

Dr. Shades wrote:So, what do you think? Assuming for a moment that Buffalo is correct and Nomad and William Schryver are one and the same, does this mean that William is attempting to disavow, deny, or otherwise overturn his own much-ballyhooed "game changing" presentation at the 2010 FAIR conference? Because that sure is what it's looking like to me.

Corrections, clarifications, and alternate viewpoints welcome.

I don't know. From the beginning, Will has told me I didn't understand his presentation, so maybe he didn't really mean what he said originally. Either way, it doesn't much matter, does it?

Runtu wrote:From the beginning, Will has told me I didn't understand his presentation[.]

In that case, you're in good company, because no one else understands it, either--least of all those who most vociferously defend it.

Either way, it doesn't much matter, does it?

No, but I think it's interesting to ponder whether Will himself has seen the error of his ways.

Dr. Shades wrote:No, but I think it's interesting to ponder whether Will himself has seen the error of his ways.

Makes me wonder if the Powers That Sit on the Throne have issued a recall notice.

harmony wrote:
Makes me wonder if the Powers That Sit on the Throne have issued a recall notice.

Why would Nemesis issue a recall notice?



Peace,
Ceeboo

Ceeboo wrote:Why would Nemesis issue a recall notice?



Peace,
Ceeboo

Nemesis is chronically constipated, so no recall is possible. The Powers, however, can recall Will whenever the mood strikes.

Dr. Shades wrote:Wait, what? I was under the impression that the entire point of Will Schryver's 2010 FAIR presentation was to convince us that the Egyptian Alphabet & Grammar project was to create a cipher as opposed to a translation.

You obviously don't get it. But, it's a subtle point: The actual cipher at issue is Will's theory.

harmony wrote:Makes me wonder if the Powers That Sit on the Throne have issued a recall notice.

Forget that imponderable. My estimate places that the number of sheets in the Throne roll at 475. That is clearly enough for multipurpose use as a cipher, breathing permit and wiping medium.




*Number revised to account for wind chill factor.

cksalmon wrote:You obviously don't get it. But, it's a subtle point: The actual cipher at issue is Will's theory.

lol! Touche! Glad to see you're still lurking, cks. How's life?

Schryver's got nothing.

Everyone knew that already, but he's playing catch up.

Unfortunately he has a really bad memory and can't keep track of which words he put in which personas mouth. Remember when he confirmed he'd said something of a somewhat misogynist nature only for it to be revealed as the words of Nomad? LOL.

He is paving the way for 'publishing' (Schryverism for having something sat on his PC that nobody is interested in) a piece about how The Book of Abraham isn't true and Joseph got the translation wrong and he is planning on using facsimile 3 to demonstrate his findings.