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Holy Ghost on vacation...again...
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:58 pm
by _Drifting
VANCOUVER, Washington (KPTV) -
A Sunday school teacher in Vancouver is accused of sexually abusing a 9-year-old girl at their church several times, court documents say.
Ryan Whitaker, a divorce attorney with an office on Main Street in Vancouver, is facing charges of rape of a child and child molestation. The alleged abuse happened at the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints located on Northeast 50th Avenue.
Authorities said the victim alerted her parents and a bishop at the church. A witness also told the sheriff's office that Whitaker was seen paying special attention to the girl, the court documents said.
"You just don't know people anymore," said Whitaker's neighbor, Linda Christina.
"I don't know if it's true or not, but I am sorry to hear about it and I do feel bad for his wife also," Christina said.
A Clark County sheriff's spokesman confirmed the Child Justice Center detectives arrested Whitaker at his law office Tuesday.
In a probable cause affidavit, a deputy said the abuse happened between February and September of this year.
The Columbian newspaper first reported on the arrest Wednesday.
According to Whitaker's website, he specializes in family law and divorce cases and has been an attorney in Clark County for years.
Whitaker's office declined to comment.
Dean Barrus, stake president of the Vancouver Washington West Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, released this statement Wednesday night:
"We are saddened as a congregation by the allegations that have come forward. When they did come forward, we immediately advised the victim and her family to go to the law and we've been cooperating with them ever since. Right now we are all trying to do all that we can to get to whatever the truth is and move forward. We are praying for the young girl and her family."
Re: Holy Ghost on vacation...again...
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:14 pm
by _Yoda
"I don't know if it's true or not, but I am sorry to hear about it and I do feel bad for his wife also," Christina said.
How about feeling bad for the child?
Cases like this make me so angry.
Re: Holy Ghost on vacation...again...
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:14 pm
by _Hoops
Edited to delete in response to Liz' explanation.
Re: Holy Ghost on vacation...again...
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:22 pm
by _Yoda
Hoops, I understand Drifting's comment. It is more of a commentary on LDS culture.
All our lives we are taught that callings are given based on inspiration from the Holy Ghost.
When someone who is called as a Sunday School teacher does something like this, particularly to a child, it is extremely frustrating. This also goes to my thought that all people who are called to work with kids should have to go through a background check. It isn't a perfect solution, but is more than we have in place now.
Re: Holy Ghost on vacation...again...
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:24 pm
by _Hoops
liz3564 wrote:Hoops, I understand Drifting's comment. It is more of a commentary on LDS culture.
All our lives we are taught that callings are given based on inspiration from the Holy Ghost.
When someone who is called as a Sunday School teacher does something like this, particularly to a child, it is extremely frustrating. This also goes to my thought that all people who are called to work with kids should have to go through a background check. It isn't a perfect solution, but is more than we have in place now.
Ah, I see. Then I'll withdraw my comment and let LDS have theirs. Thank you for your patient explanation.
Re: Holy Ghost on vacation...again...
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:27 pm
by _Yoda
Hoops wrote:liz3564 wrote:Hoops, I understand Drifting's comment. It is more of a commentary on LDS culture.
All our lives we are taught that callings are given based on inspiration from the Holy Ghost.
When someone who is called as a Sunday School teacher does something like this, particularly to a child, it is extremely frustrating. This also goes to my thought that all people who are called to work with kids should have to go through a background check. It isn't a perfect solution, but is more than we have in place now.
Ah, I see. Then I'll withdraw my comment and let LDS have theirs. Thank you for your patient explanation.
Does your Church have background checks in place for youth leaders?
Re: Holy Ghost on vacation...again...
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:33 pm
by _LDSToronto
Hoops wrote:
What are you expecting people to comment on? Your juvenile title of the OP? Or the vileness of the OP?
Sometime around 30 CE, near Jerusalem, Jesus, the Messiah, the Holy Son of God wrote:But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
As despicable as this man is, let's as this though-provoking question - if Jesus Christ cares so much about children, then why did He not send the Holy Ghost to intervene in the calling of this sexual predator? Is Christ Himself not complicit in this terrible, terrible act? After all, look what he said!
Is it possible that maybe, just maybe, there is no continuing revelation beyond the lost keys to the car?
H.
Re: Holy Ghost on vacation...again...
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:40 pm
by _Hoops
liz3564 wrote:
Does your Church have background checks in place for youth leaders?
The last seven churches I attended, going back 12 years I believe, do have a system in place to investigate volunteers. I had the occassion to be put through the system for each of these as we worked with the youth a lot. Included are background checks, references, credit report (how I passed that one I'll never know), and testimonials from church members. It was my understanding (I can only speak for Protestant churches) that each church subscribed to some sort of investigative service designed for churches. I don't know what it is, it's name, nor how much it costs, but this is the information I got from my last pastor. I asked him if the other churches used the same service and he said they probably had.
I thought the process was quite comprehensive and it is probably the most that could have been done. Others may have a more informed view. However, of course I recognize that the atrocity described in the OP occur in Protestant churches as well as any other churches. I would like that churches could do more, though I don't know what that would mean.
I was never a member of any of these churches so my investigation might have been more rigorous than others, though I don't know that.
Re: Holy Ghost on vacation...again...
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:42 pm
by _Hoops
LDSToronto wrote:
As despicable as this man is, let's as this though-provoking question - if Jesus Christ cares so much about children, then why did He not send the Holy Ghost to intervene in the calling of this sexual predator? Is Christ Himself not complicit in this terrible, terrible act? After all, look what he said!
Is it possible that maybe, just maybe, there is no continuing revelation beyond the lost keys to the car?
H.
Is this skewed toward LDS as well?
Re: Holy Ghost on vacation...again...
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:41 pm
by _Doctor CamNC4Me
Well, at least he's Sharia-compliant.