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Well, now I am depressed about Mother Theresa.

RayAgostini wrote:I hope Mr. Hitchens is now rested in the arms of the God he denied all his life, with his fake and anti-religion commentary, and his mission to destroy faith in God. And that is what he was, a destroyer of faith, just like Dawkins and Harris.

No Ray, he's in the Spirit Prison waiting for you to necro-dunk him because he's unworthy to rest in the arms of your God - yet. Get your religion straight.

just me wrote:Well, now I am depressed about Mother Theresa.

You do well to be. It seems that the amount of public adulation that a religious figure attracts tells us little about their actual utility to the people whom, we are assured, they love. People are often depressingly inaccurate in their judgements on such matters.

Still, once you have learned that, the caution you gain will stand you in good stead.

Hey EA

Perhaps my last post, for several reasons, in this thread.

EAllusion wrote:Good lord.

First of all, Hitchens made a small cottage industry out of criticizing well-liked people right after they died.

Understood, but please understand that this changes nothing concerning my view/opinion on "citicizing well-liked people right after they die".

That was one of his principle schticks. Given his admirable self-awareness, I think he would appreciate the symmetry and would be off-put by any sanctimony of leaving him untouchable because he just died.

Perhaps he would appreciate this (along with many other things that seem to be evolving in this thread). I don't happen to share that suggested "appreciation". Fair?

Second of all, I wasn't taking a shot at Hitchens at all.

I know!
You were using the event of his recent death (opportunity) to take a shot directed at something else entirely.

I'm an atheist who obviously does not believe that Hitchens is burning in hell. I was dismissively joking about the idea of him burning in hell with a supposedly saintly person that he was a fierce critic of. That's the kind of thing that celebrates who he was, not mocks him.

Yes, I clearly understood this too!

Peace,
Ceeboo

RayAgostini wrote:No doubt his brain is now being eaten by earth worms, and his life was totally meaningless. Nothing at all.

Zip, zap, and he's gone. Might as well have said nothing. What was the bloody point of existing in the first place?

Sadly, this sums up religious people. Our lives here have no meaning. It is the afterlife we are all waiting for. Athesits/Agnostics believe they will live on in the works they did while alive. The point of existing is to live life to the fullest, and try to leave your mark on the world. It saddens me that religious folks put so little value on this life.

Chap wrote:

Hoops wrote:This thread is not about that. So you support his tired, uncouth, and ugly comment? Good for you!!

Hitchens did not merely 'comment' on Mother Teresa, he produced a well-researched book on her.

Hoop wasn't referring to a comment made by Hitchens.

DarkHelmet wrote:

RayAgostini wrote:No doubt his brain is now being eaten by earth worms, and his life was totally meaningless. Nothing at all.

Zip, zap, and he's gone. Might as well have said nothing. What was the bloody point of existing in the first place?

Sadly, this sums up religious people. Our lives here have no meaning. It is the afterlife we are all waiting for. Athesits/Agnostics believe they will live on in the works they did while alive. The point of existing is to live life to the fullest, and try to leave your mark on the world. It saddens me that religious folks put so little value on this life.

Not merely leave a mark on the world, but make sincere attempts to make the world a better place for those who'll outlive you.

DarkHelmet wrote:

RayAgostini wrote:No doubt his brain is now being eaten by earth worms, and his life was totally meaningless. Nothing at all.

Zip, zap, and he's gone. Might as well have said nothing. What was the bloody point of existing in the first place?

Sadly, this sums up religious people.

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I need a break from the MDB (I am exhausted!)

See you all after the New Year!!!!!! :)

Peace to you all and Merry Christmas to you and yours!
Ceeboo

DarkHelmet wrote:
Sadly, this sums up religious people. Our lives here have no meaning. It is the afterlife we are all waiting for. Athesits/Agnostics believe they will live on in the works they did while alive. The point of existing is to live life to the fullest, and try to leave your mark on the world. It saddens me that religious folks put so little value on this life.

It's amazing how you and your brethren can so clearly and concisely summarize what religious people think. And then, in one paragraph mind you, you contrast religious thinking so starkly with what is the over-arching view of atheist/agnostic/humanists.

Hoops wrote:

DarkHelmet wrote:
Sadly, this sums up religious people. Our lives here have no meaning. It is the afterlife we are all waiting for. Athesits/Agnostics believe they will live on in the works they did while alive. The point of existing is to live life to the fullest, and try to leave your mark on the world. It saddens me that religious folks put so little value on this life.

It's amazing how you and your brethren can so clearly and concisely summarize what religious people think.

It is easy to do when their beliefs are drummed into your head daily for 30 years.