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I was trying to think of some instrument I might use that could aid in the translation the Phaistos Disc. Every attempt ends quickly with a feeling of revulsion from the spiritual. I think this is due to my upbringing. I was never taught to pray to deity through a device. It seems strange to me.

On the other hand, I can look at an image or carving of something that represents the source of spiritual enlightenment, and feel very comfortable praying. I like the graven image of God or Godly. I like to see the work of someone's attempt at describing God. I hate to use inanimate objects to communicate. It makes me feel like God doesn't like talking to me. It makes me feel like the tools I was born with are inadequate.

If the characters stamped into the Phaistos Disc are written to help us understand God, then the characters themselves should be the medium through which we endeavor. Our eyes and heart should be the instrument.

What do you think? Eyes as peep stones?

Perhaps skip the peep stone, but stick your head in a hat so you can more clearly see the message from god. Don't look at the Phaistos Disc. Don't even have an image of it in the same room.

Buffalo wrote:Perhaps skip the peep stone, but stick your head in a hat so you can more clearly see the message from god. Don't look at the Phaistos Disc. Don't even have an image of it in the same room.

I'm afraid I can't do it because I need eye and ear candy to enlighten me. I don't do as well in a dark hole. Is that a weakness of faith? It *could* be argued that Joseph Smith exhibited greater faith in his God by isolating his senses from the outside world in order to come up with stuff. While on one hand, I want to applaud his methods as zealously faithful, I also want to think it is not very hopeful. It isn't a hopeful method because we are not happy as isolated from each other an the works of others.

zeezrom wrote:

Buffalo wrote:Perhaps skip the peep stone, but stick your head in a hat so you can more clearly see the message from god. Don't look at the Phaistos Disc. Don't even have an image of it in the same room.

I'm afraid I can't do it because I need eye and ear candy to enlighten me. I don't do as well in a dark hole. Is that a weakness of faith? It *could* be argued that Joseph Smith exhibited greater faith in his God by isolating his senses from the outside world in order to come up with stuff. While on one hand, I want to applaud his methods as zealously faithful, I also want to think it is not very hopeful. It isn't a hopeful method because we are not happy as isolated from each other an the works of others.

Visit Delphi (not the one in Ohio). If you creep around the base of the temple of Apollo will find a narrow crevice that you can creep into, between the massive blocks of the foundations, no doubt caused by one of the great earthquakes that overthrew the shrine. There you may perhaps find the emanations that gave the Pythia her oracular powers ...

Or you could just drop a little acid.

One thing you can do to save some effort - quote entire chapters from older books of scripture. The Ṛigveda, for instance.

zeezrom wrote:If the characters stamped into the Phaistos Disc are written to help us understand God, . . .

Why the Hell would you assume that? Why not assume that it's a receipt of shipment for a delivery of sheepgut condoms? Both propositions are of equal likelihood.

Actually Dr. Shades, I think it's more likely talking about a marriage contract.

zeezrom wrote:Actually Dr. Shades, I think it's more likely talking about a marriage contract.

What's your evidence for that conclusion?

Dr. Shades wrote:

zeezrom wrote:If the characters stamped into the Phaistos Disc are written to help us understand God, . . .

Why the Hell would you assume that? Why not assume that it's a receipt of shipment for a delivery of sheepgut condoms? Both propositions are of equal likelihood.

Uh, Shades, have you many of zeezrom's posts? Have you followed his creative and playful attempts at making "his own" religion? Because this remark suggests you're not at all seeing where Zeez is coming from, nor getting it.

Blixa wrote:Uh, Shades, have you many of zeezrom's posts? Have you followed his creative and playful attempts at making "his own" religion? Because this remark suggests you're not at all seeing where Zeez is coming from, nor getting it.

So this thread is one of a series?