Word of Wisdom rulez !!!

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Word of Wisdom rulez !!!

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Five Afghans die after drinking methanol

KABUL, Dec 25 (Reuters) - Five people died and 10 others were hospitalised after drinking methanol at an engagement party in Kabul, the capital of staunchly conservative Afghanistan, the interior ministry said on Sunday.

Alcohol is forbidden for Muslims in Afghanistan but is available on several European military bases, among a total of about 130,000 foreign troops in the country, and to an extensive Western diplomatic and international aid community.

While it is forbidden to sell alcohol, residents in the capital can readily point to shops where it is available under the counter, usually at heavily inflated prices.

"There was an engagement ceremony and there were some young guys who found this alcohol and drank it. Five are dead and 10 more are at the hospital," said Sediq Sediqqi, a spokesman for the ministry.

He said police would investigate where the alcohol came from.

"It's not acceptable to drink stuff like this in public and it's against our Islamic law. There are different punishments for what they have done," he said, without giving details.

Afghan authorities periodically launch crackdowns against alcohol in the capital, including among passengers returning from overseas through Kabul International Airport, and there are heavy fines and other stern punishments that include flogging.

Methanol is used to make other chemicals, which in turn produce products such as plastics and paints and as fuel for vehicles. It is highly toxic when drunk by humans.

Drinking alcohol in Afghanistan was rigorously banned during the rule of the Islamist Taliban from 1996-2001 and violators could be hanged in public.

"available on several European military bases"
- You know, we Eurotrashies...


"violators could be hanged in public"
Step 1:
D&C 89:2 wrote:To be sent greeting; not by commandment or constraint

Step 2:
Doctrine and Covenants Institute Student Manual, Section 89 - The Word of Wisdom wrote:some eighteen years after it was given, the Patriarch to the Church, John Smith, delivered a talk in general conference on the Word of Wisdom. During his address, President Brigham Young arose and proposed that all Saints formally covenant to abstain from tea, coffee, tobacco, whiskey, and “all things mentioned in the Word of Wisdom” The motion was accepted unanimously and became binding as a commandment for all Church members thereafter

Step 3:
At this minute it was not sustained - yet.
Anyway, we know the words of the prophet...
the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot
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The church "evolves". Line upon line, precept upon precept. God routinely gives us "lesser" laws to prepare us to keep greater ones. The Law of Moses is a classic example; sometimes, He even backs off from former "higher" laws to give us a lesser law that at least we're more likely to live by. Divorce is an example. (See Matt. 19: 7-8.) As we grow in spiritual strength, so the laws or principles given us may also grow. I think the Word of Wisdom is a classic example. Joseph Smith, the prophet at the time it was given, was right in setting it out as "not a commandment but by greeting". Brigham Young, prophet at the time it was made binding on the church by unanimous vote in conference was the prophet then, and he was right. Which prophet is right? The prophet we have in this time and place. If President Monson contradicts Joseph Smith, President Monson is right, for here and now. And I'm sure Brother Joseph would back him up.

The U.S. Constitution is another example. When Christ comes back to institute His government, are you going to stand by the Constitution and tell Christ He is wrong, because we know the Constitution to be inspired?
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logjamislds wrote: When Christ comes back to institute His government, are you going to stand by the Constitution and tell Christ He is wrong, because we know the Constitution to be inspired?


Haven't heard that mentioned in conference lately either.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
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When Christ comes back to institute His government, are you going to stand by the Constitution and tell Christ He is wrong, because we know the Constitution to be inspired?

Haven't heard that mentioned in conference lately either.


Since other churches still exist in the millennium (LDS doctrine If I recall correctly), doesn't that tell us we will still have our agency and still have to be acted upon (and accept) by the Spirit before we decide to join His Church? Seems to me that the Constitution is still inspired and valid when Christ comes.
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bcspace wrote:... doesn't that tell us we will still have our agency ...

In another thread (viewtopic.php?p=535145#p535145) I've asked what is the difference of "agency" and "will".
Nobody answered. Would You enlighten me?

Or anybody?

Up to now, to the word of "agent" I associate to CIA, and Willy Loman (in Hungarian, the "Death of a Salesman" play was translated as the "Death of the agent".

Have the same root of agent and agency?

Please don't forget, I am thinking in a very different language structure.
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- To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
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