The true meaning of Christmas: acrosome reaction

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The true meaning of Christmas: acrosome reaction

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Could any, run of the mill, matured ovum handle fusing with the sperm of an infinite, all-powerful God?

I would guess the answer is a resounding no. Acrosome reaction requires the lock and key of same species. For the zygote to survive, the material of the ovum must contain the ingredients to fuse with the incoming cell and continue nourishing the new life during the critical moments of replication.

In summary, the motherly portion of the zygote must contain God-species specific material in order to survive. Mary must have been part God before the process began.

The Pope was partially inspired in his proclamation of the Assumption of Mary. The missing piece of the Assumption doctrine is this: Mary was not raised to heaven by a power outside herself. She propelled herself into heaven.

Merry Cristmas,

Zee.
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Zeezrom, Does it matter to your thought that there are few organizations believing God Sperm was involved? The organization with which the Pope is involved is not one of them.

Mormon ideas might suggest speculation that all humans have accesss to all divine power. I am pretty sure Mormon doctrine says that this is not so. We have potential access, would be the non heretical version I am fairly sure.
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Huckleberry,

It doesn't matter much to my thought because it doesn't really matter how the ovum became zygote. Big bang? I guess the important thing is that the host egg must have needed divine qualities in order to grow a God. The important part to remember is that God was here before the baby showed up.
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Zeezrom, In traditional, that is Catholic, Orthodox and Protestant understanding, Jesus was a regular one hundred percent human type person not a half and half. The creedal formulae is fully divine and fully human. The host egg is understood to fully human just like you and me. That is the point of incarnation.
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zeezrom wrote:Huckleberry,

It doesn't matter much to my thought because it doesn't really matter how the ovum became zygote. Big bang? I guess the important thing is that the host egg must have needed divine qualities in order to grow a God. The important part to remember is that God was here before the baby showed up.


I seem to remember a dove involved somewhere, flying up Mary's skirt? (Maybe I'm wrong). Maybe the the dove intermediary cushioned the shock.
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Huckleberry,

Jesus is God, no?

A zygote contains chromosomes from the ovum and another, 3rd party material, no?
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zeezrom wrote:Could any, run of the mill, matured ovum handle fusing with the sperm of an infinite, all-powerful God?

I would guess the answer is a resounding no. Acrosome reaction requires the lock and key of same species. For the zygote to survive, the material of the ovum must contain the ingredients to fuse with the incoming cell and continue nourishing the new life during the critical moments of replication.

In summary, the motherly portion of the zygote must contain God-species specific material in order to survive. Mary must have been part God before the process began.

The Pope was partially inspired in his proclamation of the Assumption of Mary. The missing piece of the Assumption doctrine is this: Mary was not raised to heaven by a power outside herself. She propelled herself into heaven.

Merry Cristmas,

Zee.


If I truly understood the OP, I'd be in better shape. ;-) You are mixing up rules applying to mortal genetic material with supernatural genetic material, aren't you?

Why would the same rules apply to the supernatural?

Look, I'm just trying to go with it, zee.
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zeezrom wrote:Acrosome reaction requires the lock and key of same species.


Zeezrom,

Please stop channeling Wade.

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Jersey Girl wrote:
If I truly understood the OP, I'd be in better shape. ;-) You are mixing up rules applying to mortal genetic material with supernatural genetic material, aren't you?

Why would the same rules apply to the supernatural?

Look, I'm just trying to go with it, zee.
:-)

thank you for trying to go with it.

Rather than start down the familiar path of the argument against the immaculate conception, I would like to propose an idea that skirts it for now. I know there are difficulties with the formation of a zygote using supernatural DNA but that is beside the point. The point is that Mary may have had more involvement in the divinity of the baby than we thought.
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zeezrom wrote:thank you for trying to go with it.

Rather than start down the familiar path of the argument against the immaculate conception, I would like to propose an idea that skirts it for now. I know there are difficulties with the formation of a zygote using supernatural DNA but that is beside the point. The point is that Mary may have had more involvement in the divinity of the baby than we thought.

She did. According to Catholicism, Mary was without original sin. The immaculate conception was of Mary, not Jesus.
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