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I wanted to reply to a older forum about the Kinderhook Plates...This is the first I've heard the story, so I checked them out. I came up with a whole scenario...and I'll spare you; but I really think the characters could be from the Cherokee Alphabet. The timing of both plates, and the introduction of the alphabet are about the same. The plates could've actually been 'genuine' in that regard; so with this in mind the purpose might not have been designed for fraud at all. After that, the rest is still speculative, but the possibilities are engaging enough for consideration. Thanks. I wanted to add a thought or two of my own. I don't know...it could be this idea is already out there, but that was it.

Arieminte wrote:I wanted to reply to a older forum about the Kinderhook Plates...This is the first I've heard the story, so I checked them out. I came up with a whole scenario...and I'll spare you; but I really think the characters could be from the Cherokee Alphabet. The timing of both plates, and the introduction of the alphabet are about the same. The plates could've actually been 'genuine' in that regard; so with this in mind the purpose might not have been designed for fraud at all. After that, the rest is still speculative, but the possibilities are engaging enough for consideration. Thanks. I wanted to add a thought or two of my own. I don't know...it could be this idea is already out there, but that was it.

Hmmm. I thought that analysis under an electron microscope proved they were of 19th-century origin and had been etched using wax and acid, just as the perpetrators said it was. As far as I know, no one believes they were genuine.

Are you saying that you think the men that forged the Kinderhook plates could write in Cherokee?

Welcome to the forum!!!

Arieminte wrote:I wanted to reply to a older forum about the Kinderhook Plates...This is the first I've heard the story, so I checked them out. I came up with a whole scenario...and I'll spare you; but I really think the characters could be from the Cherokee Alphabet. The timing of both plates, and the introduction of the alphabet are about the same. The plates could've actually been 'genuine' in that regard; so with this in mind the purpose might not have been designed for fraud at all. After that, the rest is still speculative, but the possibilities are engaging enough for consideration. Thanks. I wanted to add a thought or two of my own. I don't know...it could be this idea is already out there, but that was it.

Ummm....I think that it has been proven that the characters on the KH plates were taken from a Chinese tea box. No speculation needed....

Thanks. Im going to take a moment to figure out how the forum works.

Arieminte wrote:I wanted to reply to a older forum about the Kinderhook Plates...This is the first I've heard the story, so I checked them out. I came up with a whole scenario...and I'll spare you; but I really think the characters could be from the Cherokee Alphabet. The timing of both plates, and the introduction of the alphabet are about the same. The plates could've actually been 'genuine' in that regard; so with this in mind the purpose might not have been designed for fraud at all. After that, the rest is still speculative, but the possibilities are engaging enough for consideration. Thanks. I wanted to add a thought or two of my own. I don't know...it could be this idea is already out there, but that was it.

Welcome, Arieminte. I just had a look at the Kinderhook plates and an example of the Cherokee alphabet. I really couldn't see any correlation. If you did, please point them out.

It might be a moot point, anyway. If Joseph Smith was truly up to his stuff as a devinely inspired translator, he would have said they were Cherokee instead of:

I have translated a portion of them and find they contain the history of the person with whom they were found. He was a descendant of Ham, through the loins of Pharaoh, king of Egypt, and that he received his kingdom from the ruler of heaven and earth.

He was pulling our collective legs.

As an amusing aside, he thought the the king of Egypt's name was Pharaoh (Pharaoh is not a name, but the word for "King" in Egyptian).

Arieminte wrote:Thanks. I'm going to take a moment to figure out how the forum works.

I'd suggest you start with this:
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