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We read in historical documents that Lucy would have missed out on Eternal Life and Exaltation had she refused Joseph Smith's hand in marriage. At first, this story made me feel sad for her. But since then, I have discovered that she would not have been barred from Exaltation at all! How do I know this? Once again, my Benefactress has given me light and knowledge concerning this matter. Please turn with me to Aeschylus's tragedy Agamemnon and read with me the story of Cassandra and Apollo. Replace Apollo with Joseph Smith and Cassandra with Lucy.

Cassandra was loved by the god Apollo, who promised her the power of prophecy if she would comply with his desires. Cassandra accepted the proposal, received the gift, and then refused the god her favours. Apollo revenged himself by ordaining that her prophecies should never be believed. She accurately predicted such events as the fall of Troy and the death of Agamemnon, but her warnings went unheeded. During the sack of Troy, Ajax the Lesser dragged Cassandra from the altar of Athena and raped her. For this impiety, Athena sent a storm that sank most of the Greek fleet as it returned home.

In the end, Joseph Smith would have regretted any revenge on Lucy for refusing him.

zeezrom wrote:In the end, Joseph Smith would have regretted any revenge on Lucy for refusing him.

What makes you say that? Joseph certainly didn't regret his revenge on Sarah Pratt when she refused him. Why would revenge on Lucy be any different?

Dr.,
Let me remind you that you are dealing with a Greek Myth apologist a.k.a. Gropologist. That said, I will proceed to inform you of the consequence of Joseph's revenge on Sarah. God destroyed Joseph's Masonic village in heaven last year.

zeezrom wrote:Let me remind you that you are dealing with a Greek Myth apologist a.k.a. Gropologist. That said, I will proceed to inform you of the consequence of Joseph's revenge on Sarah. God destroyed Joseph's Masonic village in heaven last year.

??? Is this your way of saying that your opening post wasn't supposed to make sense?

Dr Shades,

Actually, I'm telling you that Joseph Smith Jr regrets taking vengeance on Sarah. The regret came after he died, I suppose.

zeezrom wrote:We read in historical documents that Lucy would have missed out on Eternal Life and Exaltation had she refused Joseph Smith's hand in marriage.

Lucy did refuse him. And I do believe others did too. However, it was only after a very powerful spiritual experience did Lucy say yes:

she “received a powerful and irristable testimony of the truth of the mariage covenant called 'Celestial or plural mariage'”

If she didn't receive this witness she would have said no. Lucy never regretted her plural marriage to Joseph.

I've heard people say that if Joseph Smith didn't play around with the womenfolk, he wouldn't have been killed. Maybe God stirred up anger in the hearts of the men who shot at him and eventually killed him.

why me wrote:

zeezrom wrote:We read in historical documents that Lucy would have missed out on Eternal Life and Exaltation had she refused Joseph Smith's hand in marriage.

Lucy did refuse him. And I do believe others did too. However, it was only after a very powerful spiritual experience did Lucy say yes:

she “received a powerful and irristable testimony of the truth of the mariage covenant called 'Celestial or plural mariage'”

If she didn't receive this witness she would have said no. Lucy never regretted her plural marriage to Joseph.

Many cult leaders have been able to convince young women to sleep with them through similar means.

zeezrom wrote:I've heard people say that if Joseph Smith didn't play around with the womenfolk, he wouldn't have been killed. Maybe God stirred up anger in the hearts of the men who shot at him and eventually killed him.

I believe there is truth in this.

zeezrom wrote:I've heard people say that if Joseph Smith didn't play around with the womenfolk, he wouldn't have been killed. Maybe God stirred up anger in the hearts of the men who shot at him and eventually killed him.

Joseph was a polarizing figure. He would have been killed eventually. Most revolutionaries are. He wasn't killed for playing around with women folk. He was killed by the press stirring up the mobs against him. The warsaw gazette was one such paper. Polygamy was just one of many things that were stirring up the mobs. He was a marked man from the first moment the Book of Mormon came off the press.