The people who followed Nephi obeyed God. They worked hard and were blessed. Nephi taught his people to build with wood and metal. They built a beautiful temple
Laman and Lemuel’s followers called themselves Lamanites. They became a dark-skinned people. God cursed them because of their wickedness.
The Lamanites became lazy and would not work.
So much for a "figurative" skin color change. It just goes to show that apologists represent an apostate fifth column trying to undermine and subvert the official doctrine of the church.
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Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
Although the curse of the Lamanites is often associated directly with their skin color, it may be that this was intended in a far more symbolic sense than modern American members traditionally assumed.
The curse itself came upon them as a result of their rejection of the Gospel. It was possible to be subject to the curse, and to be given a mark, without it being associated with a change in skin color, as demonstrated in the case of the Amlicites. The curse is apparently a separation from the Lord. A close reading of the Book of Mormon text makes it untenable to consider that literal skin color was ever the "curse." At most, the skin color was seen as a mark, and it may well have been that these labels were far more symbolic and cultural than they were literal.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
Just went to the LDS.org page in your post. After contemplating its contents for a minute or two, I decided to send a copy to each of my TBM children asking if they really want their children to be exposed to this patently racist garbage.
Yes. That is correct - patently racist garbage.
Substitute "Negro" for "Lamanite" and you have racist propaganda very similar to some of the KKK and KKK-inspired pamphlets / articles that were out there in the late 1950's and early 1960's.
David Hume: "---Mistakes in philosophy are merely ridiculous, those in religion are dangerous."
DrW: "Mistakes in science are learning opportunities and are eventually corrected."
Come on. If you were an apologist, you would be trying to distance yourself from this crap too:)
"We have taken up arms in defense of our liberty, our property, our wives, and our children; we are determined to preserve them, or die." - Captain Moroni - 'Address to the Inhabitants of Canada' 1775
Is it possible for the Church to fall foul of the federal laws on racism for publishing that?
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
I'm really having a hard time not crying now. Thanks a lot Buff.
This is the stuff that actually tips me over to wanting to grab my children and RUN.
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
DrW wrote:Just went to the LDS.org page in your post. After contemplating its contents for a minute or two, I decided to send a copy to each of my TBM children asking if they really want their children to be exposed to this patently racist garbage.
Yes. That is correct - patently racist garbage.
Substitute "Negro" for "Lamanite" and you have racist propaganda very similar to some of the KKK and KKK-inspired pamphlets / articles that were out there in the late 1950's and early 1960's.
Oh indeed. The contrast between the people of Caucasian appearance (Nephites) being white and industrious and the people who look just like Native American people being dark-skinned and lazy is as racist as it gets. The illustrations make it just more obvious how racist the Book of Mormon is. And how apostate the apologists are.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
just me wrote:I'm really having a hard time not crying now. Thanks a lot Buff.
This is the stuff that actually tips me over to wanting to grab my children and RUN.
Yes, we were reading this to our child and it made me want to throw the book in the trash. I'm going to bring it up to my wife this weekend.
I was actually thinking to get mine off the shelf and burn it...but I don't have a good way to do that. Recycling will do.
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
