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CES employee resigns
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:42 am
by _zeezrom
Has anyone listened to this podcast?
http://mormonstories.org/?p=2322my wife and I are eating chips and salsa with this tonight. Although, Downton Abbey is on at 9 so we are a little conflicted. What to do?
Re: CES employees resign
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:47 am
by _MrStakhanovite
I listed to all of it today, whilst laying in agony on the couch. I enjoyed it, and I was amused at all the stuff that surprised them (Smith’s polyandry and such) while being active employees for the CES for years, putting the lie to the tired mopologist rant about how apostates never researched their faith.
Re: CES employee resigns
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:36 am
by _ludwigm
Re: CES employee resigns
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:43 pm
by _Runtu
Even the seminary teachers are lazy and intransigent.
Re: CES employee resigns
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:50 pm
by _Aristotle Smith
At what point do the powers that be realize that CES, or whatever it is called nowadays, is a giant apostasy generator? Maybe not for the kids, who for the most part sleep through the entire process, but for the teachers. I myself checked out of the faith while being slave labor for CES. So did John Dehlin. So did Grant Palmer. So did Ken Clark. So did this guy.
At some point someone is going to realize they can save a bunch of money AND cut back on apostasy by simply getting rid of CES.
Re: CES employee resigns
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:54 pm
by _MrStakhanovite
I was surprised how poorly CES employees are paid.
Re: CES employee resigns
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:56 pm
by _Runtu
MrStakhanovite wrote:I was surprised how poorly CES employees are paid.
A while back, my kids' seminary teachers said they couldn't attend parent-teacher conferences because they both had second jobs. One taught institute at UVU, and the other was stocker at Wal-Mart.
Re: CES employee resigns
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:17 pm
by _Buffalo
Listening now... fascinating so far!
Re: CES employee resigns
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:25 pm
by _mcjathan
Aristotle Smith wrote:At what point do the powers that be realize that CES, or whatever it is called nowadays, is a giant apostasy generator? Maybe not for the kids, who for the most part sleep through the entire process, but for the teachers. I myself checked out of the faith while being slave labor for CES. So did John Dehlin. So did Grant Palmer. So did Ken Clark. So did this guy.
At some point someone is going to realize they can save a bunch of money AND cut back on apostasy by simply getting rid of CES.
Hi Aristotle,
I considered going into CES myself while in college (25 years ago). Since "checking out of the faith" myself about 10 years ago, I've considered how lucky I was that I didn't go into CES.
Aristotle, would you be willing to tell a bit of your story? I've enjoyed reading your postings here at MD on current topics, but I don't recall you ever telling your story.
Re: CES employee resigns
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:19 pm
by _MsJack
mcjathan wrote:Aristotle, would you be willing to tell a bit of your story? I've enjoyed reading your postings here at MD on current topics, but I don't recall you ever telling your story.
Picket John Larsen until he lets Aristotle onto the podcast to tell his story. I pitched the idea to them a few weeks ago, but haven't heard back on it.
Better hurry before you get scooped by Dehlin, John . . .
