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update to the TRI - Garments
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:45 pm
by _zeezrom
Thanks to John Dehlin.
http://mormonstories.org/other/TRI%20Qu ... 120911.pdfThis following quote is to be read during the TRI:
"Wearing the garment is the sacred privilege of those who have taken upon themselves the covenants of the temple. The garment is a reminder of these covenants and, when properly worn, will
serve as a protection against temptation and evil. It is expected that members will wear the garment both night and day according to covenants made in the temple. Members should not adjust the garment or wear it contrary to instructions in order to accommodate different styles of clothing, even when such clothing may be generally accepted. The garment should not be removed, either entirely or partially, to work in the yard or for other activities that can reasonably be done with the garment worn properly beneath the clothing.
Members who have made covenants in the temple should be guided by the Holy Spirit to answer for themselves personal questions about
wearing the garment. These sacred covenants are between the member and the Lord, and the proper wearing of the garment is an outward expression of an inner commitment to follow the Savior Jesus Christ."
Re: update to the TRI - Garments
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:06 pm
by _just me
Awesome. Maybe they should come out with a picture book for the temple preparation class and all the temple initiates.
Re: update to the TRI - Garments
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:14 pm
by _bcspace
So what's the big deal?
Re: update to the TRI - Garments
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:15 pm
by _zeezrom
I propose the following change be made to the quote:
Members should not adjust the garment or wear it contrary to instructions in order to accommodate different styles of clothing, even when such clothing may look beautiful, adorable, or alluring. The garment should not be removed, either entirely or partially, to work in the yard or for other activities that can reasonably be done with the garment worn properly beneath the clothing.
Re: update to the TRI - Garments
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:44 pm
by _just me
bcspace wrote:So what's the big deal?
No big deal. There's nothing strange about telling adults how to wear their underwear. Nothing intrusive and bizarre about that at all.
Re: update to the TRI - Garments
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:47 pm
by _consiglieri
This talk of wearing garments reminds me of back when I was a dance major in the early 1980's. I had an old-school teacher who walked with a cane from having destroyed his hips in his youth from too much ballet.
He had recently left his position as director of the American Ballet Theater to come and teach in his twilight years at the university I attended.
He fondly recollected to me one day of a young and virile Mormon danseur he had known some decades before who would come to class in customary tight clothing.
My teacher could still remember the interesting little marks he had above each nipple that showed through his t-shirt.
All the Best!
--Consiglieri
Re: update to the TRI - Garments
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:49 pm
by _just me
consiglieri wrote:This talk of wearing garments reminds me of back when I was a dance major in the early 1980's. I had an old-school teacher who walked with a cane from having destroyed his hips in his youth from too much ballet.
He had recently left his position as director of the American Ballet Theater to come and teach in his twilight years at the university I attended.
He fondly recollected to me one day of a young and virile Mormon danseur he had known some decades before who would come to class in customary tight clothing.
My teacher could still remember the interesting little marks he had above each nipple that showed through his t-shirt.
All the Best!
--Consiglieri
OMG! I am shocked he didn't get called on that. Many studios forbid the wearing of underthings beneath the leotard and tights. LMAO
Re: update to the TRI - Garments
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:59 pm
by _Mercury
just me wrote:bcspace wrote:So what's the big deal?
No big deal. There's nothing strange about telling adults how to wear their underwear. Nothing intrusive and bizarre about that at all.
No, no...nothing controlling and oppressive about telling people what undies to wear and how to wear them.
And people wonder why Mormonism is perceived as bizarre and not mainstream.
Re: update to the TRI - Garments
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:21 am
by _SteelHead
Where exactly in the temple does one covenant to wear the garments? It has been a while since I've done a washing and anointing, but I know it is not an explicit covenant in the endowment.
Re: update to the TRI - Garments
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:27 am
by _just me
SteelHead wrote:Where exactly in the temple does one covenant to wear the garments? It has been a while since I've done a washing and anointing, but I know it is not an explicit covenant in the endowment.
You don't.
You receive the instruction to wear them at the end of initiatory.
But, hey, technically in the endowment you promise to do anything and everything you are ever asked to do...so, maybe it is the same thing.