Would Joseph Smith be a liberal or conservative?

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Would Joseph Smith be a liberal or conservative?

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You could probably make an argument either way. Here are his credentials for both. Feel free to correct my lists or add to them.

Conservative:
Banking scheme (and other money making schemes)
Super religious
Military General (self appointed)

Liberal:
Non-traditional marriage and family system
Socialist fiscal policy
Anti-slavery
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Re: Would Joseph Smith be a liberal or conservative?

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Liberal:
family values
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Re: Would Joseph Smith be a liberal or conservative?

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I don't know about politics but he would certainly be a member of the FLDS rather than the LDS Church.
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Re: Would Joseph Smith be a liberal or conservative?

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DarkHelmet wrote:You could probably make an argument either way. Here are his credentials for both. Feel free to correct my lists or add to them.

Conservative:
Banking scheme (and other money making schemes)
Super religious
Military General (self appointed)

Liberal:
Non-traditional marriage and family system
Socialist fiscal policy
Anti-slavery


He'd be just like Newt Gingrich -- a serial adulterer and an opportunist. You wouldn't be able to put him in either a liberal or conservative camp. It would be all about Joe.
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Re: Would Joseph Smith be a liberal or conservative?

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BartBurk wrote:
He'd be just like Newt Gingrich -- a serial adulterer and an opportunist. You wouldn't be able to put him in either a liberal or conservative camp. It would be all about Joe.


My favorite answer so far. Joe would have claimed allegiance to whatever philosophy promoted his desires and switched to the other when it served his purposes.

If you need to put him in a category, "self serving pragmatist" might be best.
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Re: Would Joseph Smith be a liberal or conservative?

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Conservative.

No Socialism (LoC forbids it, forbids a comunal lifestyle and common property, and advances capitalism)
Military
Marriage

etc.
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bcspace wrote:Conservative.

No Socialism (LoC forbids it, forbids a comunal lifestyle and common property, and advances capitalism)
Military
Marriage

etc.


Joseph didn't seem to have strong family values, as he pursued relationships with 30 women outside legal marriage. Are you sure you want to pin that position on conservatives?
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Joseph didn't seem to have strong family values, as he pursued relationships with 30 women outside legal marriage. Are you sure you want to pin that position on conservatives?


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bcspace wrote:
Joseph didn't seem to have strong family values, as he pursued relationships with 30 women outside legal marriage. Are you sure you want to pin that position on conservatives?


Plural marriage can be God authorized.


Joseph didn't seem to have strong family values, as he pursued relationships with 30 women outside legal marriage. Are you sure you want to pin that position on conservatives?
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.

B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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Joseph didn't seem to have strong family values, as he pursued relationships with 30 women outside legal marriage. Are you sure you want to pin that position on conservatives?


Plural marriage can be God authorized.
Machina Sublime
Satan's Plan Deconstructed.
Your Best Resource On Joseph Smith's Polygamy.
Conservatism is the Gospel of Christ and the Plan of Salvation in Action.
The Degeneracy Of Progressivism.
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