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I don't know if others here are aware of this, but Dr. Peterson has a blog:

http://dcpsicetnon.blogspot.com/

Thus far, it seems to be primarily an echo chamber where he can hold forth on whatever topic he likes--without having to face challenges from anyone or anything. He noted at one point that he would not allow comments, because he does not want to have to go on answering his critics:

I'm controversial with plenty of people without picking any more fights. (Which is, by the way, why I won't be allowing comments here. I have no interest in spending several hours a day sparring with anonymous internet critics, and I can guarantee that they would show up here in droves to take a shot at me. But they have venues enough in which they can lament my wickedness and stupidity; I feel no obligation to supply them with yet another.)

(emphasis added)

The thing is: picking fights is what DCP does more than anything else. Last I heard, he had completely sworn off of even looking at our beloved MormonDiscussions.com messageboard, and yet look at this recent blog entry:

I’ve just come across the following priceless item on a predominantly secularist anti-Mormon message board where a few believing Latter-day Saints sometimes try to defend the Church:


With [obscene adjective deleted] fascist [obscene plural noun deleted] littering the board with obvious deception it can be difficult to imagine how conservative religious groups do on occasion veer from the conservative playbook to stand for things they actually believe in. Yes, sometimes these groups disagree with the vociferous fascist minority that clamors to drag these churches, and the nation, back to the Medieval world.
Cases in point:
1. The LDS Church on immigration in Utah.
2. The Catholic Church on income inequality.
Apostate fascists (rightwing conservatives) who muck up the chapels and cathedrals of these institutions with their defiance of Christ's most basic teachings and drool after the gospel of that sociopathic cult leader Ayn Rand hate it when these organizations actually serve the common good instead of merely providing the fascist minority a place to salve what little they have of a conscience with the unction of self-righteous disdain for others.


I hope that you're as relieved as I am that this writer opposes "self-righteous disdain for others."

http://dcpsicetnon.blogspot.com/2012/02 ... -beam.html

Of course--as is his fashion--he didn't bother to supply a link or to give the name of the Web site so that his readers could see the comment in context. Instead, he apparently thinks it's funny to go after Kishkumen in a venue where the Good Reverend cannot respond. What's more, he is deliberately trying to portray Kish as someone who is "obscene." (Is "bungholio" really all that "obscene"?)

The thing is: he's here apparently trying to decry and/or parody "self-righteous disdain"....by heavily employing a dose of his own self-righteous disdain.

In any event, I'm beginning to sense that Dr. Peterson has a bit of a grudge/vendetta against Kishkumen. I think that, if he wants his blog to be a blog and not yet another example of his endless thirst for fighting, smear campaigns, and sadism, that he ought to delete this entry.

But that's just me.

Oh, and by the way: Kishkumen's original remarks--and subsequent commentary--can be read here:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=22575

Dr. Ambrose,
I know you are reading this, read it well.

You are a disgrace. And it has nothing with you being Mormon, nor does it have anything to do with your membership of the largest Brighamite church. It also has zero to do with your defenses and apologetics.

You only wish this were your problem.

The inescapable fact is that you have taken a fine education and squandered it in filthy polemics, vapid rhetoric, and very, very dishonest use of sources. I would say plagiaristic. You are a travesty of a human being.

At least, at very least I don't have to be stricken by any appellation of scholar or scholarly to you or your work. You tossed that on the fire wherein you sacrificed your honor and became bloated with donuts and hypocritically cruel condescension.

I weep for the innocent students who have been inflicted with you as a teacher.

Very, very sincerely,

Dr. Spurven Ten Sing

" I have no interest in spending several hours a day sparring with anonymous internet critics"

How many years has he been in the habit of participating on internet boards? Does his employer know that he posts while at work?

I am *very* happy to know Dr. Peterson has a blog. Let's get out the popcorn.

I am a little bit saddened by this, I have to admit. It has been many years since I have discussed anything about Dr. Peterson outside of this board. Lately, I have generally avoided talking about him on the board too. The exception that I last recall was when you found that issue of the FROB in which he quoted a deplorably bad scholar who tried to argue the causal relationship between homosexuality and apostasy. Of course, he wrote to my work email to complain that I had done this, and we corresponded a little. I recommended that he remove that essay, but he didn't answer. Maybe that upset him. I don't know. I didn't wish him ill in making the comment. I guess this is his idea of revenge, although he would undoubtedly observe that by not using my name he is more virtuous than I am.

So, I have to ask, Daniel: Why do you seem to itch to talk about me off of this board? Feel free to drop me an email anytime if you want to interact with me. You know that you can always engage me here. I am not talking about you in a place where you are unable to answer back. Indeed, I have never talked about you in a place that was inaccessible to you, as your blog is closed to comments from me. I would also like to draw everyone's attention to the fact that my venting about extreme conservatives and libertarians was significantly moderated by the end of the discussion after I had cooled off.

Kishkumen wrote:No reason to apologize, Rockslider. My opening post was total crap anyway. I am ashamed of myself for writing it, because it was written so poorly. I think self-reliance is an important personal virtue. I believe in working for my daily bread. There was a time when I was fascinated with Ayn Rand, and I don't think that her voice has no place. But much caution is required. She ought not to be romanticized and made out to be something she was not. We may admire industrial heroes, but her heroes are closer to Greek myth than reality. No one should base a real economic philosophy on her viewpoint.

I think the difference between the two of us on this point is that, of the many questionable things you say, you rarely if ever retract or soften any of them. Your borrowing of this theory about homosexuality and apostasy would be an excellent example. Another would be your many past repetitions of accusations against people like Grant Palmer and Robert Ritner. I would say that this behavior is significantly less classy than me blowing off steam about ultra-conservatives, but I am sure you'll disagree. We rarely see eye to eye on anything, especially when it concerns each other.

by the way Kish, I want to emphasize that I'm not happy to see anyone attacking you but rather interested in knowing DCP is maintaining a blog that will provide lots of fodder for more Dr. Scratch posts.

zeezrom wrote:by the way Kish, I want to emphasize that I'm not happy to see anyone attacking you but rather interested in knowing DCP is maintaining a blog that will provide lots of fodder for more Dr. Scratch posts.

Oh, I understand that Zeez. I was not in the least upset by your comment.

You are a class act, Rev. Kishkumen. Based on what you're describing, it really does sound like DCP was harboring a grudge and looking for a way to exact revenge. I think that his attempts to portray you as an obscenity-spewing vulgarian was pretty distasteful--particularly given the fact that, as you point out, you're unable to respond. I stand by what I said earlier: he should either allow you to respond; he should delete the post (like he did with his proxy baptism comments, apparently); or he should post a link so that his readers can see the original remark in context.

ETA: Am I alone in finding it creepy that he is haranguing you via your work email?

zeezrom wrote:by the way Kish, I want to emphasize that I'm not happy to see anyone attacking you but rather interested in knowing DCP is maintaining a blog that will provide lots of fodder for more Dr. Scratch posts.

Wow, Zeez... Are you really, actually requesting that I write more posts about DCP?

Heck, this is one of the best aspects of MDB for me now. Knowing which threads DCP will be closely following here, and knowing how it is driving him crazy that he has twice now withdrawn from the trailer park and would really be losing face to come back again. Having also lost the cafeteria to do his bidding, his avenues to fulfill his need to set the record straight are now limited to his blog.

At first I was surprised that Dan would have been following the thread in question here, but after Kish mentioned a previous encounter, one must also remember that Dan seems to maintain his own hit list of people he obsesses over.