Approaching Mormon History

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Approaching Mormon History

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Something I hadn't noticed is not long after the Church published it's excellent summary on doctrine, it also published this:

Approaching Mormon History

Elder Jeffrey R. Holland, member of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, was asked how faith interacts with history. He emphasized that ultimately spiritual matters cannot be empirically verified, but require faith: “It will forever come to faith, or it isn't religion in any way that I understand religion.” Furthermore, Elder Holland said that there is no need to hide from Church history and that it should be accepted for what it is.
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bcspace wrote: Elder Holland said that there is no need to hide from Church history and that it should be accepted for what it is.


That will come as news to Grant Palmer and Michael Quinn.
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bcspace wrote: Elder Holland said that there is no need to hide from Church history and that it should be accepted for what it is.


Waiting for the day when the deed is as good as the word.
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bcspace wrote:Something I hadn't noticed is not long after the Church published it's excellent summary on doctrine, it also published this:

Approaching Mormon History

Elder Jeffrey R. Holland, member of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, was asked how faith interacts with history. He emphasized that ultimately spiritual matters cannot be empirically verified, but require faith: “It will forever come to faith, or it isn't religion in any way that I understand religion.” Furthermore, Elder Holland said that there is no need to hide from Church history and that it should be accepted for what it is.


So says the man who gave the "Safety for the Soul" talk, which was an accurate portrayal of Mormon history in the same sense that the Disney movie Gus is a documentary about professional football.
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The sticky issue I noticed was the term "literal" in light of previous LDS detractors of Newsroom articles now rushing to embrace them.
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Willy Law wrote:
bcspace wrote: Elder Holland said that there is no need to hide from Church history and that it should be accepted for what it is.


That will come as news to Grant Palmer and Michael Quinn.



But then, not to put too fine a point on it, who cares what they think?
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687u
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bcspace wrote:The sticky issue I noticed was the term "literal" in light of previous LDS detractors of Newsroom articles now rushing to embrace them.



Ahh...a double standard in play?
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The sticky issue I noticed was the term "literal" in light of previous LDS detractors of Newsroom articles now rushing to embrace them.

Ahh...a double standard in play?


Yes. And a double issue. For you see, not only are they now embracing the Newsroom, another Newsroom article with the Church's view on Church history includes the historicity of the Book of Mormon as doctrine; "literal".
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bcspace wrote:Something I hadn't noticed is not long after the Church published it's excellent summary on doctrine, it also published this:

Approaching Mormon History

Elder Jeffrey R. Holland, member of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, was asked how faith interacts with history. He emphasized that ultimately spiritual matters cannot be empirically verified, but require faith: “It will forever come to faith, or it isn't religion in any way that I understand religion.” Furthermore, Elder Holland said that there is no need to hide from Church history and that it should be accepted for what it is.



Aw come on bcspace, you know Holland is only Speculating. After all you don't know, you weren't there, nobody knows for sure.
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