Exposing LDS Church Safeguards in FamilySearch.org

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Exposing LDS Church Safeguards in FamilySearch.org

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As I said a few days ago - I submitted a Holocaust survivor to FamilySearch and recorded the whole thing. And, lest anyone miss it in the write-up, I removed the individual from FamilySearch when I finished. No need to call the ethics board.

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Where are the failsafes that the Church said it put in place?
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Doctor Scratch wrote:Where are the failsafes that the Church said it put in place?


Ummmm.......

Well, uh,

You see....

Ah, um....
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Fantastic job!
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Excellent work.
I think there are a few journalists who would find this very interesting.
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Simon Southerton wrote:Excellent work.
I think there are a few journalists who would find this very interesting.


I agree, you should try to spread this information.
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Of course, the agreement pertained only to Holocaust victims. By definition then submitting a survivor's name would have been snared by the 95 year rule unless Mr Ldst falsely claimed the survivor was dead or an ancestor. Even then Radkey wouldn't have been interested. So, it wasn't a very courageous cowardly move.
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We gotta spread this crap like Nutella.

The point is to expose the complete lack of any real barriers to the submission of names. The church is not being honest when it says:

It takes a good deal of deception and manipulation to get an improper submission through the safeguards we have put in place.


This article shows that.
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Yahoo Bot wrote:Of course, the agreement pertained only to Holocaust victims. By definition then submitting a survivor's name would have been snared by the 95 year rule unless Mr Ldst falsely claimed the survivor was dead or an ancestor. Even then Radkey wouldn't have been interested. So, it wasn't a very courageous cowardly move.


You didn't read the whole write-up, did you? I submitted a survivor (now passed on) in the published demo. I also submitted a victim and got the same results. However, I didn't think it was all that classy or ethical publishing a Holocaust victims name for this experiment, so I used the survivor.

The point here, Bot, is the results were *exactly* the same. The system responded precisely the same way with Holocaust survivor and victim.

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