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Exposing LDS Church Safeguards in FamilySearch.org

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:20 am
by _LDSToronto
As I said a few days ago - I submitted a Holocaust survivor to FamilySearch and recorded the whole thing. And, lest anyone miss it in the write-up, I removed the individual from FamilySearch when I finished. No need to call the ethics board.

HOT SAUCE

Re: Exposing LDS Church Safeguards in FamilySearch.org

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:41 am
by _MrStakhanovite
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Re: Exposing LDS Church Safeguards in FamilySearch.org

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:08 am
by _Doctor Scratch
Where are the failsafes that the Church said it put in place?

Re: Exposing LDS Church Safeguards in FamilySearch.org

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:19 am
by _LDSToronto
Doctor Scratch wrote:Where are the failsafes that the Church said it put in place?


Ummmm.......

Well, uh,

You see....

Ah, um....

Re: Exposing LDS Church Safeguards in FamilySearch.org

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:28 am
by _just me
Fantastic job!

Re: Exposing LDS Church Safeguards in FamilySearch.org

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:53 am
by _Simon Southerton
Excellent work.
I think there are a few journalists who would find this very interesting.

Re: Exposing LDS Church Safeguards in FamilySearch.org

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:59 am
by _Stormy Waters
Simon Southerton wrote:Excellent work.
I think there are a few journalists who would find this very interesting.


I agree, you should try to spread this information.

Re: Exposing LDS Church Safeguards in FamilySearch.org

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:03 am
by _Yahoo Bot
Of course, the agreement pertained only to Holocaust victims. By definition then submitting a survivor's name would have been snared by the 95 year rule unless Mr Ldst falsely claimed the survivor was dead or an ancestor. Even then Radkey wouldn't have been interested. So, it wasn't a very courageous cowardly move.

Re: Exposing LDS Church Safeguards in FamilySearch.org

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:24 am
by _just me
We gotta spread this crap like Nutella.

The point is to expose the complete lack of any real barriers to the submission of names. The church is not being honest when it says:

It takes a good deal of deception and manipulation to get an improper submission through the safeguards we have put in place.


This article shows that.

Re: Exposing LDS Church Safeguards in FamilySearch.org

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:28 am
by _LDSToronto
Yahoo Bot wrote:Of course, the agreement pertained only to Holocaust victims. By definition then submitting a survivor's name would have been snared by the 95 year rule unless Mr Ldst falsely claimed the survivor was dead or an ancestor. Even then Radkey wouldn't have been interested. So, it wasn't a very courageous cowardly move.


You didn't read the whole write-up, did you? I submitted a survivor (now passed on) in the published demo. I also submitted a victim and got the same results. However, I didn't think it was all that classy or ethical publishing a Holocaust victims name for this experiment, so I used the survivor.

The point here, Bot, is the results were *exactly* the same. The system responded precisely the same way with Holocaust survivor and victim.

H.