Family dies holding hands, praying

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_Panopticon
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Family dies holding hands, praying

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“The parents and their three children -- all 2 or under, including one buckled in a car seat -- held hands on the hallway floor of their neighbor's mobile home, praying a fast-approaching storm would show them mercy. Mother Nature [sic, God] answered with a fierce tornado, which violently swept them up, separated them and deposited them about 100 yards away.”

http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/05/us/indiana-tornado-girl/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

When I read this, a picture titled "Theodicy Without Words" came to mind:

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Re: Family dies holding hands, praying

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God helps those who help themselves.

All this proves is that indeed God is not a magic genie in the sky.
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Re: Family dies holding hands, praying

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Tobin wrote:God helps those who help themselves.

All this proves is that indeed God is not a magic genie in the sky.


In other words, god doesn't help anyone.
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Re: Family dies holding hands, praying

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How would you have wanted God to answer this prayer? What would satisfy you?
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You know I don't really think there is a God there to answer prayers but if I have to go I can think of no better way then to be together with my family like that. Sad story.
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Re: Family dies holding hands, praying

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Hoops wrote:How would you have wanted God to answer this prayer? What would satisfy you?


I suspect that the family in question were politely requesting their deity to ensure that the incident in question ended without them being dead or seriously injured.

I'll go with that one.
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Chap wrote:
Hoops wrote:How would you have wanted God to answer this prayer? What would satisfy you?


I suspect that the family in question were politely requesting their deity to ensure that the incident in question ended without them being dead or seriously injured.

I'll go with that one.

Typical.

I asked HOW - not the end result.
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Hoops wrote:Typical.

I asked HOW - not the end result.


The usual means - magic.
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Re: Family dies holding hands, praying

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Hoops wrote:How would you have wanted God to answer this prayer? What would satisfy you?


Hoops wrote:
Chap wrote:I suspect that the family in question were politely requesting their deity to ensure that the incident in question ended without them being dead or seriously injured.

I'll go with that one.


Typical.

I asked HOW - not the end result.


Sorry I made you shout.

If that's what you mean by 'how', I'd say that the precise means and manner by which your deity delivered the result of safeguarding the family over the five minutes or so following their imploring his help would almost certainly have been irrelevant to them, and it is to me.

I mean, he's omnipotent, so let him just get on with it.
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Re: Family dies holding hands, praying

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Buffalo wrote:
Hoops wrote:Typical.

I asked HOW - not the end result.


The usual means - magic.

No, not the instrument. Try again.
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