Scott Gordon's Deceptive Apologetic
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:41 pm
http://www.fairblog.org/2012/02/25/thre ... riesthood/
So what?
So what? There is no scriptural explanation as to why tea is included in the word of Wisdom. It just is. It is a commandment. There is no historical document detailing the "revelation" of it. It is just accepted as doctrine because the Church has taught that God wants it that way. And so it was with the Priesthood ban. Brigham Young called it the "law" of God and the First Presidency released a statement calling it the official "position" and doctrine of the Church, basing it on another "doctrine" regarding preexistence behavior.
That hardly explains the "blackness" qualifier.
Oh. My. God.
And the interpretation of these scriptures was clearly dictated by apostles and prophets, which is supposed to be their job right? They are the ones who tell us what the scriptures mean.
Funny how Scott doesn't feel it is necessary to provide a reference for this.
Focus in on the last part of the statement, "I think" they are wrong. Sounds like personal opinion to me. Suddenly the opinion of an LDS authority during some random interview Trump's an official release produced by the First Presidency?
That's right, just go ahead and show the world how brain-dead and robotic the Mormon mentality really is. All it takes is one authority to order you to forget everything he wants you to forget, and wallah! It is done. Unfortunately for the apologists, declarations such as these carry no weight with historians and critical thinkers. We're not going to just ignore more than a century of official pronouncements just because doing so would make things easier for the LDS Church. Following this line of reasoning, next year the Church could allow homosexuals to be married in the temple, and all that would be needed is for some apostle to say, "forget everything we said before today." We just changed our mind and we promise you it has nothing to do with the coincidental increase of social pressure, and everything to do with "revelation."
Myth #1: Blacks couldn’t have the priesthood because they had the curse or mark of Cain
This belief was commonly held by many Protestant denominations in early American history.
So what?
While the scriptures do talk about a mark being put on Cain, there is no scriptural explanation of what that mark may be or how it relates to the priesthood.
So what? There is no scriptural explanation as to why tea is included in the word of Wisdom. It just is. It is a commandment. There is no historical document detailing the "revelation" of it. It is just accepted as doctrine because the Church has taught that God wants it that way. And so it was with the Priesthood ban. Brigham Young called it the "law" of God and the First Presidency released a statement calling it the official "position" and doctrine of the Church, basing it on another "doctrine" regarding preexistence behavior.
One member of my high priest quorum suggested the mark is likely to be male pattern baldness.
That hardly explains the "blackness" qualifier.
There is a scripture in the Book of Moses talking about the children of Canaan being black (Moses 7:8), but there is no given connection between Cain and Canaan. Just because a name sounds similar, doesn’t make it the same.
Oh. My. God.
Even in the Book of Abraham, the priesthood restrictions were not put on “blacks”, but on the lineage of the Egyptian Pharaoh. This was at the time of Abraham, long before Jesus Christ. If you were alive at that time, it is likely you would have been restricted from that priesthood as well.
And the interpretation of these scriptures was clearly dictated by apostles and prophets, which is supposed to be their job right? They are the ones who tell us what the scriptures mean.
Myth #2: Blacks were neutral or less valiant in the pre-existence
This terrible teaching was repudiated by none other than Brigham Young himself. Unfortunately, it continued to be perpetuated by many members throughout our history, and even ended up in books authored by Joseph Fielding Smith.
Funny how Scott doesn't feel it is necessary to provide a reference for this.
In an interview, apostle Jeffery R. Holland said the following: “One clear-cut position is that the folklore must never be perpetuated. … I have to concede to my earlier colleagues. … They, I’m sure, in their own way, were doing the best they knew to give shape to [the policy], to give context for it, to give even history to it. All I can say is however well intended the explanations were, I think almost all of them were inadequate and/or wrong.” (Source: http://www.pbs.org/Mormons/interviews/holland.html#1)
Focus in on the last part of the statement, "I think" they are wrong. Sounds like personal opinion to me. Suddenly the opinion of an LDS authority during some random interview Trump's an official release produced by the First Presidency?
For those who are troubled by the fact that explanations given historically are now being repudiated, we have to look at the words of Bruce R. McConkie, who was originally a proponent of those theories. He said, “Forget everything that I have said, or what President Brigham Young or President George Q. Cannon or whomsoever has said in days past that is contrary to the present revelation. We spoke with a limited understanding and without the light and knowledge that now has come into the world.
That's right, just go ahead and show the world how brain-dead and robotic the Mormon mentality really is. All it takes is one authority to order you to forget everything he wants you to forget, and wallah! It is done. Unfortunately for the apologists, declarations such as these carry no weight with historians and critical thinkers. We're not going to just ignore more than a century of official pronouncements just because doing so would make things easier for the LDS Church. Following this line of reasoning, next year the Church could allow homosexuals to be married in the temple, and all that would be needed is for some apostle to say, "forget everything we said before today." We just changed our mind and we promise you it has nothing to do with the coincidental increase of social pressure, and everything to do with "revelation."