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Official doctrine: general authorities are infallible
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:40 pm
by _Buffalo
http://www.LDS.org/ensign/1996/12/when- ... e?lang=engKeep your eyes riveted on the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles. We will not lead you astray. We cannot.
I hope bcspace is reading this and will repent of his disbelief in the global flood.
Re: Official doctrine: general authorities are infallible
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:52 pm
by _bcspace
Notice the context that it is together they will not and cannot lead us astray.
Re: Official doctrine: general authorities are infallible
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:07 pm
by _Buffalo
bcspace wrote:Notice the context that it is together they will not and cannot lead us astray.
Together they have determined that the flood was global. Here to help.
Re: Official doctrine: general authorities are infallible
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:10 pm
by _bcspace
Notice the context that it is together they will not and cannot lead us astray.
Together they have determined that the flood was global.
Indeed. But notice that such does not lead me from salvation. Notice also how well this dovetails with:
Not every statement made by a Church leader, past or present, necessarily constitutes doctrine.
Re: Official doctrine: general authorities are infallible
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:20 pm
by _Buffalo
bcspace wrote:Indeed. But notice that such does not lead me from salvation.
Irrelevant.
Astray
adverb
Into error
Re: Official doctrine: general authorities are infallible
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:27 pm
by _DarkHelmet
But what if the statement is made by the FP, in a written statement, on church letterhead, and in that statement they say that it is doctrine?
Re: Official doctrine: general authorities are infallible
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:28 pm
by _just me
DarkHelmet wrote:But what if the statement is made by the FP, in a written statement, on church letterhead, and in that statement they say that it is doctrine?
It depends. What does President Newsroom say about it?
Re: Official doctrine: general authorities are infallible
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:59 pm
by _KevinSim
Buffalo wrote:Irrelevant.
Astray
adverb
Into error
The key is indeed understanding what
astray really means. But
into error is just one definition. When I look up
astray in "www.dictionary.com" the first definition I get is "out of the right way; off the correct or known road, path, or route." When I hear the LDS leadership say God will not let them lead the members astray, I believe it means God
knew ahead of time the likeliness that they
would lead the members in the way that God
wanted them to go, and chose them accordingly, confident that they will get God's message very close, and ready to stop those LDS leaders by any means available if they got too far off message.
Will there be some errors in some of the things the leaders teach? I think it's
inevitable that there will be some such errors. But God has picked and chosen the LDS leaders to speak for Him because He knows that they are going to do a better job of leading us to eventually understanding God than anybody else in the world is going to do.
Re: Official doctrine: general authorities are infallible
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:05 pm
by _bcspace
Indeed. But notice that such does not lead me from salvation.
Irrelevant.
Astray
adverb
Into error
Completely relevant as to the consequential effects.
Re: Official doctrine: general authorities are infallible
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:08 pm
by _Buffalo
KevinSim wrote:Buffalo wrote:Irrelevant.
Astray
adverb
Into error
The key is indeed understanding what
astray really means. But
into error is just one definition. When I look up
astray in "www.dictionary.com" the first definition I get is "out of the right way; off the correct or known road, path, or route." When I hear the LDS leadership say God will not let them lead the members astray, I believe it means God
knew ahead of time the likeliness that they
would lead the members in the way that God
wanted them to go, and chose them accordingly, confident that they will get God's message very close, and ready to stop those LDS leaders by any means available if they got too far off message.
Will there be some errors in some of the things the leaders teach? I think it's
inevitable that there will be some such errors. But God has picked and chosen the LDS leaders to speak for Him because He knows that they are going to do a better job of leading us to eventually understanding God than anybody else in the world is going to do.
If the teaching of false doctrine is acceptable, then there never was any apostasy.