I TRULY LOVE THE CHURCH....BUT...

[_Daheshist]

I do not hate the LDS Church. I LOVE it! I love the concept of going on missions, self-sacrifice, non-smoking, non-drinking, morality, honesty. Living Prophets with up-to-date Revelation. I LOVE it!

Before my mission, I had very much wanted to become an Institute Instructor. Working for CES would have been a beautiful thing for me, because I'm a very IMpractical man. I'm no good with business, no good with cards, no good with building things. Very impractical for the REAL world. I love the realm of thought and philosophy. Teaching the Gospel for a living would have been wonderful. True, I'm not a morning person, but I would have done anything to work for CES for 30 years. That would have been absolutely TOTALLY awesome!

I would have put my own "spin" on things, a little bit. I would NOT have towed the Party-line completely. I would have taught more what the Book of Mormon actually teaches, than what the Correlation Committee teaches. I would have probably been warned a few times to "stick with the cirriculum. I may have been fired, but I would have walked a fine line. For example:

*When the manuals taught there was no physical death before Adam Fell, I would say: "In my opinion, students, the Fall of Adam had no effect upon our physical world, but upon the Spirit-World".

*When the manuals taught that Noah's flood covered the entire planet, I would have suggested it was a local event, since 'eretz' ("earth") does not mean planet, but "land".

*When the manuals taught that we are all the sons and daughters of God, I would have taught what the Book of Mormon actually says: that we are NOT the sons and daughters of God until we have been born again.

*When the manuals would "suggest" that God the Father and Mary had physical relations to produce the body of Jesus, I would have taught what the Book of Mormon says: that Mary is called a "virgin" both before and after the conception and birth of Jesus.

*etc.

Again, I may have been fired for this, but that is what I would have done, because I could not possible stomach when the manuals teach false doctrines. Hopefully, if my supervisors in CES was NOT McConkites, then I would have been allowed some lee-way.

BUT.....this was not to be. Unfortunately. I lost faith in Church leaders on my mission, after another missionary read from McConkie's "Mormon DOCTRINE" that God begot Jesus wit Mary in the same manner that a mortal man begets a mortal son. I was completely and utterly DEVASTATED!!!!!!

Yes, I know that American Indians are NOT Lamanites. I know they are NOT the sons of Lehi the Jew and Ishmael the Arab. I would have looked upon the Book of Mormon as a parable, inspired story, not literal history. The book is actually an excellent "mortality story". Its not written well. But, the TRUTHS it teaches are profound! And, very true.

I believe that whoever wrote THE Book of Mormon was inspired of God, because the book is true! NOT because it is historical (it is NOT), but because it accurately depicts human nature. If Joseph Smith wrote the book, he was inspired to do so. I mean that seriously. Whoever wrote it had a LIFETIME of observing human nature. I can't see how a young man could have done it.

Whoever wrote it, Solomon Spaulding, or Sidney Rigdon, or Ethan Smith, or a combination of them all, its "inspired" in that it accurately reveals the "nature" of human beings. How wealth leads to pride and haughtiness and then all manner of sins. How the rich despise the poor. I SAW THIS IN THE Mormons THEMSELVES! Over and over again.

I LOVE the Church! But I don't love the hypocrisy...which is MASSIVE. I don't love how Church leaders LIE, COVER-UP the sins of their own blood relatives, LIE AGAIN, etc. I DO NOT LIKE being treated as an "inferior" by Mormons because I was poor. I don't like all those things. But, I love the "concept" of the Church. The concept of it......self-less service to others, honesty, morality, phyiscal and mental purity...is extremely attractive to my sort of personality. But, I just don't love the REALITY of Mormon culture.

Somewhere, in another universe, Darrick Evenson is called to a mission in Mexico or Latin America or Russia instead of among wealthy Mormons in California. His Mission inspires him, instead of disillusions him. He comes back, goes to school, then goes to BYU, finds a NON-fat woman to marry, gets hires as a Seminary Teacher, works in Burley Idaho for 10 years, then gets a Masters degree, gets hired as an Institute Instructor in Denver Colorado. Ahhhhhh..........in some other Universe, Darrick Evenson has grand-children by now, and is a very happy, contented, man. I wish I could trade places with that other Darrick in that other parallel universe, if only for a day.

[_Nightlion]

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*When the manuals taught that we are all the sons and daughters of God, I would have taught what the Book of Mormon actually says: that we are NOT the sons and daughters of God until we have been born again.

*When the manuals would "suggest" that God the Father and Mary had physical relations to produce the body of Jesus, I would have taught what the Book of Mormon says: that Mary is called a "virgin" both before and after the conception and birth of Jesus.

*etc.

Again, I may have been fired for this, but that is what I would have done, because I could not possible stomach when the manuals teach false doctrines. Hopefully, if my supervisors in CES was NOT McConkites, then I would have been allowed some lee-way.

BUT.....this was not to be. Unfortunately. I lost faith in Church leaders on my mission, after another missionary read from McConkie's "Mormon DOCTRINE" that God begot Jesus wit Mary in the same manner that a mortal man begets a mortal son. I was completely and utterly DEVASTATED!!!!!!
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Curious about one thing here Darrick. You know I have been interested in your spiritual progress. Your honest intellect recognizes real flaws. Where you are weak is in finding the answers. I would expect that you might have once noticed over the years that I agree with what I quote from you here.

Honestly I think you have been preyed upon by very smart but evil spirits who are oppressing your ability to find the way. But that can be a tell of your real spiritual potential as you may well prove to be a great disturber to their kingdom should you ever get clear of them and are free to be drawn unto Christ's redemption. If you are in Salt Lake still or return anytime call me and come over and visit with me.

I know I have said that I do not care. And I really don't care about Dahesist or Baha Ullah, still I must care a little.

[_Daheshist]

Nighlion,

I'll put it this way.....the "JESUS" of Evangelicals is WORSE than the Devil. I have no respect for such an EVIL being as one who would create billions just to burn them forever for his own enjoyment.

Dahesh VISITED ME in 2005. ____________IF HE IS AN EVIL SPIRIT THEN I WILL FOLLOW HIM FOREVER_____!!!

But, HE is not an evil spirit. He is JESUS. There is no "other" Jesus than Him.

Darrick

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*When the manuals taught that we are all the sons and daughters of God, I would have taught what the Book of Mormon actually says: that we are NOT the sons and daughters of God until we have been born again.

*When the manuals would "suggest" that God the Father and Mary had physical relations to produce the body of Jesus, I would have taught what the Book of Mormon says: that Mary is called a "virgin" both before and after the conception and birth of Jesus.

*etc.

Again, I may have been fired for this, but that is what I would have done, because I could not possible stomach when the manuals teach false doctrines. Hopefully, if my supervisors in CES was NOT McConkites, then I would have been allowed some lee-way.

BUT.....this was not to be. Unfortunately. I lost faith in Church leaders on my mission, after another missionary read from McConkie's "Mormon DOCTRINE" that God begot Jesus wit Mary in the same manner that a mortal man begets a mortal son. I was completely and utterly DEVASTATED!!!!!!
snip>

Curious about one thing here Darrick. You know I have been interested in your spiritual progress. Your honest intellect recognizes real flaws. Where you are weak is in finding the answers. I would expect that you might have once noticed over the years that I agree with what I quote from you here.

Honestly I think you have been preyed upon by very smart but evil spirits who are oppressing your ability to find the way. But that can be a tell of your real spiritual potential as you may well prove to be a great disturber to their kingdom should you ever get clear of them and are free to be drawn unto Christ's redemption. If you are in Salt Lake still or return anytime call me and come over and visit with me.

I know I have said that I do not care. And I really don't care about Dahesist or Baha Ullah, still I must care a little.

[_Nightlion]

Bit confused I am. Did you take upon you the name of Daheshist and were you wrought upon and cleansed after having faith in him? Did he give you a new heart with a sound mind that has you empowered and actively overcoming the world by leaps and bounds? Has he poured out knowledge upon you as mighty as the flow of the Missouri River?

I fail to see it. You do not abound. You only manifest a double or trebled mind that is unstable in all its ways. You have not found it. You are still seeking. Admit it. A lie can only persist for as long as you accept it. Forsake it and its power will abate.

Crap, man, I was visited of seducing spirits when I was 15 years old. I recognized it quickly and forsook them utterly which was just another step towards the real deal. Most people are not troubled in this way. Pride alone is enough to shackle the masses.

[_Daheshist]

The truth is, Nightlion, MOST Mormons I knew had "double" minds and "double" lives. I never did.

Dahesh visited me. Again...

YOUR JESUS IS MY DEVIL

YOUR DEVIL IS MY JESUS

I won't change. Your Jesus is EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVil incarnate.

My Dahesh is good. HE was Jesus in a previous incarnation.

You can KEEP your Jesus. Flush him down the toilet with the other crap.

Bit confused I am. Did you take upon you the name of Daheshist and were you wrought upon and cleansed after having faith in him? Did he give you a new heart with a sound mind that has you empowered and actively overcoming the world by leaps and bounds? Has he poured out knowledge upon you as mighty as the flow of the Missouri River?

I fail to see it. You do not abound. You only manifest a double or trebled mind that is unstable in all its ways. You have not found it. You are still seeking. Admit it. A lie can only persist for as long as you accept it. Forsake it and its power will abate.

Crap, man, I was visited of seducing spirits when I was 15 years old. I recognized it quickly and forsook them utterly which was just another step towards the real deal. Most people are not troubled in this way. Pride alone is enough to shackle the masses.

[_Nightlion]

That's enough of this.