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How can the endowment

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:46 pm
by _harmony
How can the endowment be doctrine, since it's not in the canon and it's not officially published anywhere?

Re: How can the endowment

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:05 pm
by _Darth J
bcspace has informed the world that doctrine is officially published and does not change.

The temple endowment is not officially published and has changed.

Therefore, the temple endowment is not doctrine.

Re: How can the endowment

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:32 pm
by _zeezrom
This is proof that the voice of modern prophets is canon.

Re: How can the endowment

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:01 am
by _bcspace
bcspace has informed the world that doctrine is officially published


The Church has so informed the world yes.

and does not change.


I have never said that.

The temple endowment is not officially published


It is but it's esoteric.

Re: How can the endowment

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:45 am
by _harmony
bcspace wrote:
The temple endowment is not officially published


It is but it's esoteric.


Uh... not it's not. Officially published, I mean. If you think it is, then show the link.

Re: How can the endowment

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:18 am
by _Darth J
Sorry, bcspace. Doctrine doesn't change, and the endowment is not officially published by the Church.

It's not official doctrine.

Re: How can the endowment

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:24 am
by _Darth J
Go ahead, bcspace. Deny that you ever said doctrine doesn't change. Follow the example of your favorite corporation that has a religion on the side. It's not just a river in Egypt.

bcspace wrote:
Libs wrote: Most churches have changed over the centuries, even the LDS Church. Change is not always a bad thing, nor the people who seek it. Often it can be for the better.


Sure. But the LDS Church hasn't really changed in doctrine since the days of the Restoration which means the LDS Church so far has been immune to diverging frm the truth and I think it will remain so.

http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/573 ... believers/


bcspace wrote:
Nimrod wrote: and so in the next publication may eviscerate anything bcspace currently believes


Always a possibility. But doctrine really hasn't changed in any significant way over the years. For example, plural marriage is a still a doctrine and the lineage of Cain being cursed as pertaining to the priesthood is still a doctrine; even by Runtu's stricter-than-the-Church's- standards. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=13064&view=previous

Re: How can the endowment

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:49 am
by _bcspace
It is but it'sesoteric.

Uh... not it's not. Officially published, I mean. If you think it is, then show the link.


I know it's officially published having seen it. It's not available via any link that I know of. However, it is esoteric so even if a link existed, I would not give it to you.

Go ahead, bcspace. Deny that you ever said doctrine doesn't change. Follow the example of your favorite corporation that has a religion on the side.


The quotes you have for me continue to prove that I never said doctrine doesn't change. I stand by it.

Re: How can the endowment

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:16 am
by _Polygamy-Porter
I read on the old FAIR board that it is published, but only for reference and training the Depends patrol who do all of the assisting in the ceremony.

As the number of temples started to grow the members started noticing differences in the ceremonies so the men at the top decided to have it published in a book.

Is that canon? No because it is not readily available to the membership.

Re: How can the endowment

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:37 am
by _bcspace
Is that canon? No because it is not readily available to the membership.


No, it's not canon, but it is indeed esoteric doctrine.