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More distancing from "Lamanites"

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:11 pm
by _Infymus
Delightsome White Boy over on RFM posted the following about his trip to Hawaii and the Mormon owned Polynesian Cultural Center:

http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,472011

LDS Polynesian Cultural Center Changing a few things

Been enjoying the Islands of Hawaii and have been a frequent visitor to the PCC over the last few decades. On the temple tour they used to have a clip showing that all of the islanders originated from Father Lehi. GONE!

Several times they mentioned that the early Polynesians had no written language and that is why preserving their song and dance is so important. NO REFORMED EGYPTIAN mentioned anymore!!!

The night show no longer teaches about Joseph Smith's first vision (in Hawaiian). Tourists unknowingly used to get the first discussion in song and dance. It's now more like the Lion King's circle of life theme with islanders.

Several smoking spots were available throughout the park. Caffeinated Pepsi was put in front of all guests To drink with dinner. They also had plenty of coffee available with dessert.


A followup post by Dr Simon Southerton:

Interestingly, the doctrine that the Polynesians are Lamanites was created by the first missionaries who taught in the Pacific. Joseph Smith made no recorded declarations on the subject.

The first recorded statement by a missionary linking Polynesians with Lehi was in the 1850 missionary diary of Louisa Pratt, wife of Addison Pratt. George Q. Cannon served in Polynesia at the same time and was ordained an apostle in 1860 and later joined the First Presidency.

The prophets jumped on board the myth once they saw how popular it was. It wasn't until 1858 that Brigham Young declared the Polynesians were "of the House of Israel". Now we have the church and its apologists distancing themselves from the myth.

That's what happens when you allow your EMOTIONS to tell you what is TRUE.


The whitewashing continues.

One of the things that bugs me is his statement "Tourists unknowingly used to get the first discussion in song and dance." This is very true about the Mormon Cult - trickery. I recall the 2002 Winter Olympics and getting tickets through my very TBM inlaws for a special celebration of Olympics in the Cult owned great and spacious building. Everything was Olympics - there was no hint as to what the real program was.

What was it? It was a trick. The whole thing was a very VERY whitewashed Mormon view of Joseph Smith and Brigham and the Mormons traveling to Utah.

I was pissed. I got up halfway through, threw my tickets on the isle and walked out. Shame on me, I should have known better.

Re: More distancing from "Lamanites"

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:20 pm
by _harmony
When I was at the PCC in December, saw the night show, attended the luau, I saw very little of the church as a BIG BROTHER presence, just lots of nice people dressed in muumuus and hawaiian shirts. We took the night bus tour to the university, then to the temple. The movie was okay, nothing out of line. The temple was beautiful, all lit up. The only time we saw the missionaries was on the bus tour, and they were 2 girls who spent most of the time chatting about clothes.

It was jampacked with people, though, even on what we thought would be an off day for them.

It was an enjoyable day.

Re: More distancing from "Lamanites"

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:17 pm
by _Buffalo
It's amazing how much the church has changed on this so quickly. When I was a kid we went and did a service project at an Indian reservation. We were told that were going to go help the Lamanites.

Re: More distancing from "Lamanites"

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:49 pm
by _Infymus
Buffalo wrote:It's amazing how much the church has changed on this so quickly. When I was a kid we went and did a service project at an Indian reservation. We were told that were going to go help the Lamanites.


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