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The group was based in Magna at the time of the alleged rape, but later moved to Idaho and Montana, where the men were arrested. Cynthia Dalton testified she was living in Magna with her father and stepmother when her father told her he had an impression that she needed to have sex with Harman and that she would receive "a great blessing" for doing so.

Harman said he initially told Dalton about the impression he had involving sex with Dalton's daughter, but it was Dalton who told the then-teenager. Harman was 17 years older than the girl at the time.

Cynthia Dalton — who has spoken publicly to the media about the rape — repeatedly said she felt "extreme pressure" from her father and others in the church to comply with his commands. She said she had been taught to do everything her father told her to do and was lectured, reprimanded and sometimes beaten if she didn't obey.

"Have you checked the children?" continues to reduce the "Horny 'ol Joe" hypothesis to hopeful speculation.

bcspace wrote:"Have you checked the children?" continues to reduce the "Horny 'ol Joe" hypothesis to hopeful speculation.

The article doesn't say if Cynthia Dalton got pregnant. Even if she didn't, it doesn't excuse what Harmon and her father did.

bcspace wrote:"Have you checked the children?" continues to reduce the "Horny 'ol Joe" hypothesis to hopeful speculation.

Yes, I have, and I found out that Joseph Smith had a child by the name of Josephine Rosetta Lyon by his Plural wife Sylvia Sessions Lyon.

http://www.wivesofjosephsmith.org/08-Sy ... nsLyon.htm

DarkHelmet wrote:

bcspace wrote:"Have you checked the children?" continues to reduce the "Horny 'ol Joe" hypothesis to hopeful speculation.

The article doesn't say if Cynthia Dalton got pregnant. Even if she didn't, it doesn't excuse what Harmon and her father did.

bcspace's rationale is simple. If no child, no pregnancy. If there was no pregnancy, then there was no sex. If no sex, no rape.

Onan must be considered a god by the Mormon defenders of JSJr.

bcspace wrote:"Have you checked the children?" continues to reduce the "Horny 'ol Joe" hypothesis to hopeful speculation.

Is this meant to be a defense of Harman?

sock puppet wrote:bcspace's rationale is simple. If no child, no pregnancy. If there was no pregnancy, then there was no sex. If no sex, no rape.

Onan must be considered a god by the Mormon defenders of JSJr.

Bcspace is just trolling. He has already accepted in the past that Joseph has had sex with some of his wives.

bcspace wrote:"Have you checked the children?" continues to reduce the "Horny 'ol Joe" hypothesis to hopeful speculation.

Are you still arguing Smith did not have sex with his plural "wives?"

Jason Bourne wrote:

bcspace wrote:"Have you checked the children?" continues to reduce the "Horny 'ol Joe" hypothesis to hopeful speculation.

Are you still arguing Smith did not have sex with his plural "wives?"

Either that or he's arguing that Harmon didn't have sex with Cynthia Dalton since the article doesn't mention children. Nobody is sure what point he is trying to make.