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Re: The Shape of Mormonism to Come
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:30 am
by _Darth J
bcspace wrote:Brook's faith is not in the Church or in the God worshiped by the Church but in a vague hope that the Atonement washes away unrepented sins.
Pictured: the God worshiped by the Church
Re: The Shape of Mormonism to Come
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:53 am
by _Doctor CamNC4Me
I think the "shape of Mormonism to come" has arrived in the form of a billion dollar mall.
- VRDRC
Re: The Shape of Mormonism to Come
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:17 pm
by _Yoda
Darth J wrote:bcspace wrote:Brook's faith is not in the Church or in the God worshiped by the Church but in a vague hope that the Atonement washes away unrepented sins.
Pictured: the God worshiped by the Church
Classic Seineld episode!!!!

Re: The Shape of Mormonism to Come
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:33 pm
by _DarkHelmet
moksha wrote:bcspace wrote:Brook's faith is not in the Church or in the God worshiped by the Church but in a vague hope that the Atonement washes away unrepented sins.
Has the Atonement been downgraded to a vague hope recently?
Maybe. The church used to teach about an infinite atonement, but I'm not sure if that's official doctrine anymore.
Re: The Shape of Mormonism to Come
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:51 pm
by _RockSlider
DarkHelmet wrote:Maybe. The church used to teach about an infinite atonement, but I'm not sure if that's official doctrine anymore.
If you can pass the Temple Req. interview, then of course its an infinite atonement for you.
Re: The Shape of Mormonism to Come
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:00 pm
by _Jason Bourne
Droopy
Are you saying the Brooks represents what Mormonism is going to become?
I ask you again as I have before.
What is the Church to do with a Brooks or John Dehlin?
Should they excommunicate them? What would the results be if they did so?
Should they tolerate them? What will the results be if they do so?
Should they embrace them? What would the results be if they do?
This certainly will shape the Church in the future. One wonders what it will look like.
None of the results looks positive for the hard line conservative position you and BC espouse except the first. But I believe that will result in shrinkage for the Church over time.
Re: The Shape of Mormonism to Come
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:56 pm
by _Polygamy-Porter
Jason Bourne wrote:This certainly will shape the Church in the future. One wonders what it will look like.
None of the results looks positive for the hard line conservative position you and BC espouse except the first. But I believe that will result in shrinkage for the Church over time.
Great points Jason.
LDS Inc knows it cannot cut out this malignant growth without loosing even more. Perhaps the money changers(LDS accountants) have determined that the least loss is to let them remain.
Re: The Shape of Mormonism to Come
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:02 pm
by _MCB
So long as the (essentially) oldest member of the 12 becomes the next leader of the church, the conservative core will remain in power.
Re: The Shape of Mormonism to Come
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:06 pm
by _Tobin
Polygamy-Porter wrote:Jason Bourne wrote:This certainly will shape the Church in the future. One wonders what it will look like.
None of the results looks positive for the hard line conservative position you and BC espouse except the first. But I believe that will result in shrinkage for the Church over time.
Great points Jason.
LDS Inc knows it cannot cut out this malignant growth without loosing even more. Perhaps the money changers(LDS accountants) have determined that the least loss is to let them remain.
Actually, Sister Brooks and those like her really represent the Church of the future. It is the conservative Mormons and their ilk like Droopy and bc that are going to disappear. I don't see many in the next generation that is going to endorse the intolerance for gays and suppression of women's role in the leadership of the Church and it will have to change to reflect that (as it has with blacks and in other ways).
Re: The Shape of Mormonism to Come
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:10 pm
by _Tim the Enchanter
Jason Bourne wrote:Droopy
But I believe that will result in shrinkage for the Church over time.
Two Seinfeld references in one thread.