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Thinking can undermine religious faith, study finds
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:57 pm
by _DarkHelmet
http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la- ... 4010.storyThose who think more analytically are less inclined to be religious believers than are those who tend to follow a gut instinct, researchers conclude.
In other breaking news, scientists have confirmed that 2+2 equals 4.
Re: Thinking can undermine religious faith, study finds
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:18 pm
by _Hades
Let this be a lesson to believers. Don't start thinking.
"When the prophet speaks, the thinking has been done."
Words to live by, and keep you believing.
Re: Thinking can undermine religious faith, study finds
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:27 pm
by _Drifting
Hades wrote:Let this be a lesson to believers. Don't start thinking.
"When the prophet speaks, the thinking has been done."
Words to live by, and keep you believing.
On a technicality, as long time poster Nehor once demonstrated; this phrase has been shown to be a one off which the Church has since official retracted.
However, the following similar but completely different phrase is alive and well and being promoted in Mormonism today.
"when the prophet speaks, the debate is over"
Spot the difference? No, neither could I......
Re: Thinking can undermine religious faith, study finds
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:46 pm
by _Hades
I'm going to use this when people ask me why I left.
I'll say, "Because I started thinking."
"Brother Hades thought his way right out of the church."
Re: Thinking can undermine religious faith, study finds
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:00 pm
by _Fence Sitter
On a related note studies have found that those that pray are more inclined to believe in God.

Re: Thinking can undermine religious faith, study finds
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:17 pm
by _TrashcanMan79
Drifting wrote:On a technicality, as long time poster Nehor once demonstrated; this phrase has been shown to be a one off which the Church has since official retracted.
If I recall correctly, it was repudiated in private correspondence between a member of the FP (prophet?) and a clergyman from the Catholic Church --
not through any official channels within the LDS Church. I could be wrong, but this is how I remember it...
Re: Thinking can undermine religious faith, study finds
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:52 pm
by _Juggler Vain
TrashcanMan79 wrote:Drifting wrote:On a technicality, as long time poster Nehor once demonstrated; this phrase has been shown to be a one off which the Church has since official retracted.
If I recall correctly, it was repudiated in private correspondence between a member of the FP (prophet?) and a clergyman from the Catholic Church --
not through any official channels within the LDS Church. I could be wrong, but this is how I remember it...
Why would the prophet want to retract that phrase? It was probably somebody lower on the ladder who still found it useful to keep thinking.
-JV
Re: Thinking can undermine religious faith, study finds
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:36 pm
by _Jason Bourne
Hades wrote:Let this be a lesson to believers. Don't start thinking.
"When the prophet speaks, the thinking has been done."
Words to live by, and keep you believing.
Drifting wrote:On a technicality, as long time poster Nehor once demonstrated; this phrase has been shown to be a one off which the Church has since official retracted.
However, the following similar but completely different phrase is alive and well and being promoted in Mormonism today.
"when the prophet speaks, the debate is over"
Spot the difference? No, neither could I......
Well technically I guess the results are the same. But even if the debate is over you can think about it. But just shut up about it. Don't say a word.

Re: Thinking can undermine religious faith, study finds
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:38 pm
by _zeezrom
Last night, my wife and I were watching a documentary and the phrase "The truth shall set you free." was stated. She leaned over and said with a smile, "except in Mormonism."
You know, this is interesting. In the true confines of the religion, truth actually imprisons a person. You become stuck between your new ideas and the traditions of your fathers and mothers. You take a huge step when deciding to follow the truth. It comes at great price. A pearl, you might say... Is the truth worth the cost?
Re: Thinking can undermine religious faith, study finds
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:44 pm
by _Runtu
Jason Bourne wrote:Well technically I guess the results are the same. But even if the debate is over you can think about it. But just shut up about it. Don't say a word.

Here's where the "debate is over" quote comes from:
http://www.LDS.org/ensign/1978/11/if-we ... -to-get-onNearly two years later, N. Eldon Tanner expanded on that theme:
http://www.LDS.org/liahona/1980/06/the-debate-is-over