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Is Hatch an LDS "Insider" in a way that Palmer isn't?

Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 8:08 pm
by _TrashcanMan79
I remember the mopologists taking exception to the use of the word insider in Palmer's An Insider's View of Mormon Origins. According to the Trib, Orrin Hatch's forthcoming book will be titled An Insider's Guide to Mormon Beliefs.

Will Hatch's title be subject to the same criticism from the mopologists as Palmer's?

Re: Is Hatch an LDS "Insider" in a way that Palmer isn't?

Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 8:14 pm
by _son of Ishmael
I somehow doubt that.

Re: Is Hatch an LDS "Insider" in a way that Palmer isn't?

Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 8:15 pm
by _Buffalo
TrashcanMan79 wrote:I remember the mopologists taking exception to the use of the word insider in Palmer's An Insider's View of Mormon Origins. According to the Trib, Orrin Hatch's forthcoming book will be titled An Insider's Guide to Mormon Beliefs.

Will Hatch's title be subject to the same criticism from the mopologists as Palmer's?


I think I can safely predict only the sound of crickets coming from NAMIRS on this one.

Re: Is Hatch an LDS "Insider" in a way that Palmer isn't?

Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 9:04 pm
by _Kishkumen
He is an insider because his book is faith-affirming.

Re: Is Hatch an LDS "Insider" in a way that Palmer isn't?

Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 9:58 pm
by _Yong Xi
Harry Reid is an insider as well, then.

Re: Is Hatch an LDS "Insider" in a way that Palmer isn't?

Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 9:59 pm
by _Kishkumen
Yong Xi wrote:Harry Reid is an insider as well, then.


Not according to the likes of bcspace, Droopy, and Schryver.

Re: Is Hatch an LDS "Insider" in a way that Palmer isn't?

Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 10:47 pm
by _Darth J
For instance, perhaps someone should have told The New York Times' Jodi Kantor that “deseret” is a noun in LDS-speak meaning “honeybee,” not an adjective suggesting “industriousness.”

The New York Times quote:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/20/us/po ... ml?_r=3&hp

As a young consultant who arrived at the office before anyone else, Mr. Romney was being “deseret,” a term from the Book of Mormon meaning industrious as a honeybee, and he recruited colleagues and clients with the zeal of the missionary he once was.

I'm glad Senator Hatch is going to clear up misunderstandings like this. The general public needs to know that "deseret" is what honeybees were called by a group of people who escaped having their language mixed up at the tower of Babel so they could journey for a year in wooden submarines, with no steering or propulsion and glowing rocks inside, to America, where they built a vast civilization that made use of advanced metallurgy and elephants.

We need these clarifications out there, because when a reporter just says that "deseret" means "industrious," it makes Mormon beliefs look ridiculous!

Re: Is Hatch an LDS "Insider" in a way that Palmer isn't?

Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 12:16 am
by _hatersinmyward
An insiders view? funny, but in a sick way.

Hatch seems responsible, he's got the balls if the crap hits the fan.

In his hands weights and balances. They still have a choice, at least I like to think so.

Re: Is Hatch an LDS "Insider" in a way that Palmer isn't?

Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 1:13 am
by _moksha
At least there will be no hatchet reviews on Hatch. :biggrin:

Re: Is Hatch an LDS "Insider" in a way that Palmer isn't?

Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 3:56 am
by _bcspace
We need these clarifications out there, because when a reporter just says that "deseret" means "industrious," it makes Mormon beliefs look ridiculous!


Not unless you can find western etymology on that word prior the LDS Church.