Thank You Bishop
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_Chap
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That's like Jesus sending you to jail, I suppose ...
Zadok:
I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis.
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis.
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
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I see that it was dated 2000. How long were you there?
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Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. - The Dude
Don't you know there ain't no devil, there's just god when he's drunk - Tom Waits
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_Doctor Scratch
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Wow, so the Church itself paid for this, eh? That's quite a stunning piece of evidence.
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son of Ishmael wrote:I see that it was dated 2000. How long were you there?
For about $100k.
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Welp, when doing the Lord's work...
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Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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This crap needs to hit the fan.
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I think I know someone that went there as well.
He smoked weed and I think he did a bit of escatasy as well. His parents pretty much kidnapped him and sent him to a rehab center in Utah. Could be this I guess...
He smoked weed and I think he did a bit of escatasy as well. His parents pretty much kidnapped him and sent him to a rehab center in Utah. Could be this I guess...
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_Willy Law
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So the Boys Ranch is considered "health care"?
I always found Bishop Huffaker to be great person, what was his involvement in the decision to send you to the Boys Ranch?
I always found Bishop Huffaker to be great person, what was his involvement in the decision to send you to the Boys Ranch?
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Willy Law wrote:I always found Bishop Huffaker to be great person
Meh.
what was his involvement in the decision to send you to the Boys Ranch?
I don't know enough about it yet to comment, but I look forward to finding out.
Below is some of my favorite commentary regarding the "allegation" that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints *DIRECTLY* supports the Chris Buttars Utah Boys Ranch:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/01/05/680293/-Trapped-in-a-Mormon-Gulag wrote:Chino, I know you're pissed about Prop 8 (the reason you wrote another Mormon bashing diary), but this isn't productive.
Let's say the title said 'Trapped in a Jewish Gulag'. Not only would it never make the rec list, but the diarist would never be heard from again. Of course I'm not advocating Chino disappear, but this diary (especially the title) doesn't belong on the rec list.
by alpraz on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 06:33:38 AM PST
If it's not owned the church, the title needs to be changed.
by alpraz on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 06:40:20 AM PST
This camp has nothing to do with the Mormon Church.
by alpraz on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 07:25:04 AM PST
Whether some camp in Utah is doing that in the name of the church is something that should be looked into, but calling it a Mormon Gulag is a lie. Plus, the intentions of the diarist are clear. The diarist is upset with the church over prop 8 (rightfully so), but the diarist is using untrue sniping attacks to vent his anger.
by alpraz on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 08:05:11 AM PST
I'm not really upset about the diary, as I think this ranch is a nuts, but the title and the tying to the LDS religion is not only inflammatory but also inaccurate.
by alpraz on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 06:39:14 AM PST
PROVE that the place is staffed by missionaries[*].
Prove it.
by benthos on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 10:19:17 AM PST
*http://www.mormontimes.com/mormon_living/mission_life/?id=7284
http://oneutah.org/utah-politics/trapped-in-a-mormon-gulag/ wrote:That story is just another smear on the Mormon church. Probably some homo who’s still mad about prop 8 and displacing his anger on the Mormons...Also if you look at the board of trustees[*] not one of them is a leader in the Mormon church. Kind of wierd if the school really is run by the Mormons.
by Utahn on January 6, 2009 - 11:41 am
*http://westridgestaff.wordpress.com/category/shareholders/
http://oneutah.org/utah-politics/trapped-in-a-mormon-gulag/ wrote:I’m not Mormon but I have many good Mormon friends. I think it’s ridiculous that people feel the need to make up stupid stories like this to try and smear them. Leave them alone and worry about religions that really are bad like Muslims.
by Richard Warnick on January 6, 2009 - 11:51 am
Here is another document that speaks to the kind of non-denominational "treatment" Boys Ranch boys receive.
