Elder Holland Allegedly Responds to Ex-StkPres (updated)

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Elder Holland Allegedly Responds to Ex-StkPres (updated)

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Interesting. What do you think?

http://www.postmormon.org/exp_e/index.p ... ead/33547/

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See his letter wherein he calls himself "Thomas Phillips" at the top and says he is from England and mentions his son "Alan" is a Stake Pres now: http://exmormon.org/d6/drupal/Letter-to ... -of-Mormon
After you set me apart as stake president, you said “Tom, now we are sealed”. ...Two letters you wrote to me are kept in a special file and in my ‘heart’. One letter iterated your admiration and appreciation of my son, Alan, and his effect on your son,...You are possibly aware of Alan’s position as a stake president.

See here where a 'Thomas William Phillips" is released as Stake Pres: http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/2 ... ncies.html

BIRMINGHAM ENGLAND STAKE: (May 9, 1993) President - Clive R. Norton, 40, personal computer services manager, succeeding Thomas William Phillips...


See here where an "Alan Thomas Phillips" is called as a Stake Pres: http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/5 ... dents.html

LONDON ENGLAND HYDE PARK STAKE: (Oct. 26, 2008) President Alan Thomas Phillips, 38, company director, Tardis Group, succeeding Jeffrey L. Kirk
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I'm not very familiar with the post Mormon board. Do we know if this reply from Holland is real?
If so it's a poor reply. You'd expect something a little more substantive or inspiring from an apostle. Although it is similair to the reply I've gotten from my friends and family.
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Stormy Waters wrote:Do we know if this reply from Holland is real?

I've known Anointed One online for some time now. I believe him. So if the word of one anonymous interwebber vouching for another means anything to you... :smile:
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mms wrote:Interesting. What do you think?

http://www.postmormon.org/exp_e/index.p ... ead/33547/


Knowing the internet world, I don't think that a GA would respond by email especially this type of email. My guess: it is phoney. Also, if it is a genuine letter it shows the intent of the person receiving it, which is another reason why sending such a response by email to a former member is a mistake.
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TrashcanMan79 wrote:I've known Anointed One online for some time now. I believe him. So if the word of one anonymous interwebber vouching for another means anything to you... :smile:


So, he posts a private email online to be mocked? Amazing. Glad that I am not an exmo. I would hate to have such a soul.
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See his letter wherein he calls himself "Thomas Phillips" at the top and says he is from England and mentions his son "Alan" is a Stake Pres now: http://exmormon.org/d6/drupal/Letter-to ... -of-Mormon
After you set me apart as stake president, you said “Tom, now we are sealed”. ...Two letters you wrote to me are kept in a special file and in my ‘heart’. One letter iterated your admiration and appreciation of my son, Alan, and his effect on your son,...You are possibly aware of Alan’s position as a stake president.

See here: http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/2 ... ncies.html

BIRMINGHAM ENGLAND STAKE: (May 9, 1993) President - Clive R. Norton, 40, personal computer services manager, succeeding Thomas William Phillips...


See here: http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/5 ... dents.html

LONDON ENGLAND HYDE PARK STAKE: (Oct. 26, 2008) President Alan Thomas Phillips, 38, company director, Tardis Group, succeeding Jeffrey L. Kirk
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Hey, whyme, do you not think that given this man's (Mr. Phillips') apparent thinking regarding the Church, Elder Holland did not understand that his response would likely be disseminated? I give him far more credit than that. I believe he likely has no problem at all with his message getting out to other apostates. No?
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why me wrote:
TrashcanMan79 wrote:I've known Anointed One online for some time now. I believe him. So if the word of one anonymous interwebber vouching for another means anything to you... :smile:


So, he posts a private email online to be mocked? Amazing. Glad that I am not an exmo. I would hate to have such a soul.

Don't worry, why me, the more of your posts I read the more I suspect you may not have such a soul--or any type of soul.
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why me wrote:So, he posts a private email online to be mocked? Amazing.

I can think of quite a few Mormon apologists that you must really, really dislike then.
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