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What is the 'second annointing'?
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 7:35 am
by _Drifting
I've heard this phrase a couple of times.
What is it?
Re: What is the 'second annointing'?
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 12:03 pm
by _Maxrep
Drifting wrote:I've heard this phrase a couple of times.
What is it?
It is your "Calling and election made sure"; "receiving the second comforter"; "The more sure word of prophecy".
Sometimes it is referred to as the second endowment. In the early days of the church, getting ones second endowment was quite common, and did not neccessarily carry with it the implications that it became known for later.
With the passage of time, the second endowment involved a couple receiving an invitation from a member of the twelve. From my understanding, part of the endowment took place in the temple, and the second portion, in the couples home. In the last portion they had the opportunity to "Seek the face of the lord", if they so wished, which was nothing less than a visitation from Christ himself.
That is what I recall from my days in middle earth, but I have to admit that it has been along time since I was in the shire....
Re: What is the 'second annointing'?
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 12:05 pm
by _LDSToronto
Re: What is the 'second annointing'?
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 1:31 pm
by _Drifting
Re: What is the 'second annointing'?
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 8:33 pm
by _Jonah
Hmmmmmmmm....
What happens if you have had the "second anointing" and you are later excommunicated from the church?
Like my former Stake President. Who was gay (and still is) at the time of his anointing. Who was ex'd after it was revealed he was having a seven year affair with another dude. Who now believes the church is a bunch of hocus pocus.
Is his calling and election still "made sure"?
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 8:56 pm
by _Hasa Diga Eebowai
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Re: What is the 'second annointing'?
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 9:02 pm
by _Drifting
Jonah wrote:Hmmmmmmmm....
What happens if you have had the "second anointing" and you are later excommunicated from the church?
Like my former Stake President. Who was gay (and still is) at the time of his anointing. Who was ex'd after it was revealed he was having a seven year affair with another dude. Who now believes the church is a bunch of hocus pocus.
Is his calling and election still "made sure"?
Apparently yes.
He can live his gay life and still gain Celestial glory providing he avoids shedding innocent blood.
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 9:07 pm
by _Hasa Diga Eebowai
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 9:13 pm
by _Hasa Diga Eebowai
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Re: What is the 'second annointing'?
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 11:40 pm
by _Joe Geisner
Drifting wrote:I've heard this phrase a couple of times.
What is it?
Here is a nice typescript of Heber Kimball's
http://www.ldsendowment.org/kimball.htmlAlso Kimball's diary records the second part of the ceremony. If you would like to read that part, I will see if it is on the Internet.