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Perverting Modesty
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:34 am
by _DarkHelmet
Interesting article from an active member. Of course, I'm sure many TBMs that post here would not consider this person a member in good standing. Based on this article, I would guess she is a democrat.
http://bycommonconsent.com/2011/07/09/p ... g-modesty/Now, nine years into my church journey, I find myself resentful of the change wrought in me by this messed-up idea of modesty. I find it absolutely immodest that sleeve length on a prom dress is considered the marker of a girl’s virtue, rather than the sparkle of her eyes and quality of her character. I find it absolutely immodest that the lines of my underwear can be seen by other church members and that I can be judged or questioned based on knowledge and presence of those lines. I find it absolutely immodest that little girls are told to be modest, and not left to be innocent children finding joy in the movement and glory of a body unencumbered by the projections of others.
I wish I could erase this twisted idea of modesty from my experience. This modesty fetish has perverted the idea of true humbleness into a niche clothing market. I wish that I could go back to never noticing the clothing options of my friends, or worrying that mine might again be wrong. There are a lot of things this Church does right, and tremendous value and good that come even from the culture- but the broken idea and definition of modesty is simply wrong.
Re: Perverting Modesty
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:21 am
by _Jonah
I find it absolutely immodest that little girls are told to be modest, and not left to be innocent children finding joy in the movement and glory of a body unencumbered by the projections of others.
I had no idea of the depth of the "modest is hottest" brainwashing until an incident with my daughter a few years ago. She was probably 9 or 10 years old at the time and it was my weekend to have the kids. We were planning on going to a water park but my daughter had left her swimsuit at the home of my TBM ex. No problem, I told her we would go and buy her a new one that she could then keep at my house.
At the store she was very picky trying to find that perfect one-piece little girls swimsuit. All the ones I picked out were the wrong size, wrong, color, ugly stripes...whatever!! FINALLY she found what appeared to be the perfect swimsuit for her. She was excited to try it on and see how it fit. After a few minutes she came back from the change room and told me we couldn't buy the swimsuit because it was immodest. Immodest?? HUH?? It was a regular one-piece swimsuit for a little kid!! I asked her what was immodest about it and she said, "It shows too much BACK".
WOW. Too much back?? I gathered everyone, left the store, then drove by my ex's place to pick up my daughter's modest swimsuit that didn't show too much back. Wow.
Re: Perverting Modesty
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:46 am
by _just me
Walking back child porn. Good god! What is the world coming to???
Re: Perverting Modesty
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:39 am
by _ludwigm
Jonah wrote: she said, "It shows too much BACK".
Re: Perverting Modesty
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:03 am
by _Fiannan
Re: Perverting Modesty
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:24 pm
by _MsJack
DarkHelmet wrote:Interesting article from an active member. Of course, I'm sure many TBMs that post here would not consider this person a member in good standing. Based on this article, I would guess she is a democrat.
http://bycommonconsent.com/2011/07/09/p ... g-modesty/
Definitely one of the best blog posts ever written on modesty. It would be unfortunate if TBMs did not consider Tracy M a member in good standing, because any church would be lucky to have her.
I don't know if Tracy is a Democrat, or why the article would make you think that she is, but quite a few of the BCC bloggers are.
Re: Perverting Modesty
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:14 pm
by _Doctor CamNC4Me
No.
This shows too much back:
Re: Perverting Modesty
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:07 pm
by _why me
DarkHelmet wrote:Interesting article from an active member. Of course, I'm sure many TBMs that post here would not consider this person a member in good standing. Based on this article, I would guess she is a democrat.
http://bycommonconsent.com/2011/07/09/p ... g-modesty/Now, nine years into my church journey, I find myself resentful of the change wrought in me by this messed-up idea of modesty. I find it absolutely immodest that sleeve length on a prom dress is considered the marker of a girl’s virtue, rather than the sparkle of her eyes and quality of her character. I find it absolutely immodest that the lines of my underwear can be seen by other church members and that I can be judged or questioned based on knowledge and presence of those lines. I find it absolutely immodest that little girls are told to be modest, and not left to be innocent children finding joy in the movement and glory of a body unencumbered by the projections of others.
I wish I could erase this twisted idea of modesty from my experience. This modesty fetish has perverted the idea of true humbleness into a niche clothing market. I wish that I could go back to never noticing the clothing options of my friends, or worrying that mine might again be wrong. There are a lot of things this Church does right, and tremendous value and good that come even from the culture- but the broken idea and definition of modesty is simply wrong.
Ummm...I think that I need to start a thread about my recent trip to Tallinn, Estonia on business. I have a great modesty story involving a couple of hookers. Stay tuned for thread.
Re: Perverting Modesty
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:52 pm
by _Jonah
Re: Perverting Modesty
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:41 am
by _why me
A member can wear what they want to wear. If a woman wants to wear a strapless blouse...wear it. If a woman wants to wear short shorts, wear them. No one cares since it is up to the individual. The LDS recommends a certain way to dress...nothing more. By he way, so did the apostle paul.
