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Re: DCP Responds to Getting "Fired" from the Review

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:41 pm
by _lulu
Daniel Peterson wrote:I love . . . the Institute.
Which is why he's not going to fund raise for it any more.

Re: DCP Responds to Getting "Fired" from the Review

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:40 pm
by _moksha
Shulem wrote:
Daniel Peterson wrote:* I don't intend to "go nuclear." I love the Church, the University, and the Institute.


Sure you do. It's all about love. But you'll just use conventional weapons. No need to use weapons of mass destruction. Knives and guns will do just fine. Right?

Paul O


Come on Paul, just because all of us at one time or other have been emotionally wounded, it does not mean we abandon all we hold dear whether it be our jobs, cars, faith or favorite brand of diet cola.

"Going nuclear" at BYU can be as simple as passing of the Jell-O during Cougar Day.

Re: DCP Responds to Getting "Fired" from the Review

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:33 am
by _harmony
lulu wrote:
Daniel Peterson wrote:I love . . . the Institute.
Which is why he's not going to fund raise for it any more.


Hmmmm... it looks like there will be a position open for a fundraiser. Should I apply? I'm usually around the $400K mark every year...

Re: DCP Responds to Getting "Fired" from the Review

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:39 am
by _lulu
harmony wrote:Hmmmm... it looks like there will be a position open for a fundraiser. Should I apply? I'm usually around the $400K mark every year...

Go for it. You'll have to live BYU standards though.

Re: DCP Responds to Getting "Fired" from the Review

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:44 am
by _Doctor Scratch
Cinepro posted this on MDD:

By furthering religious scholarship through the study of scripture and other texts,
Brigham Young University's Neal A. Maxwell Institute for Religious Scholarship seeks to deepen understanding and nurture discipleship among Latter-day Saints while promoting mutual respect and goodwill among people of all faiths.


This is the MI's Mission Statement, and he rightly asked, "Where does apologetics fit into this?" The thing is, they revised this at some point. It used to list "defending the faith" at part of the mission (If I recall correctly). A lot of the people on that thread seem to think that DCP et al.'s brand of apologetics is necessary to defend the faith, but that just isn't true. People like Bushman, Givens, and Quinn can be considered "defenders of the faith," too. The difference is that they aren't conducting smear campaigns, waging ad hominem wars, and so on.

Re: DCP Responds to Getting "Fired" from the Review

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:53 am
by _harmony
lulu wrote:Go for it. You'll have to live BYU standards though.


I live BYU standards without needing the Honor Code.

Re: DCP Responds to Getting "Fired" from the Review

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:12 am
by _Ceeboo
Hey Scratch :smile:
Doctor Scratch wrote:
People like Bushman, Givens, and Quinn can be considered "defenders of the faith," too.


Although my scope of knowledge in very narrow concerning the names you list above (I have heard/read of them to some degree), It is my opinion that Bokovoy is near the top of any "defenders of the Mormon faith" list.

in my opinion he is a great guy, brilliant, compassionate, and has long ago earned my deepest respect and admiration. (I frequently enjoy his "light" that he so graciously and humbly shares) :smile:

Just wanted to add him, for what it's worth.

Peace,
Ceeboo

Re: DCP Responds to Getting "Fired" from the Review

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:42 am
by _Doctor Scratch
Hi, Ceeboo.

Sure: Bokovoy could be considered a "defender" of the Church, though he has said that he has no interesting in apologetics, mainly (in my opinion) because of how tainted that term has become, thanks to the antics of the MI Mopologists.

You know: there is great irony in the fact that the MDD-ites are now demanding that the MI and the Review be allowed to do "apologetics" (that's the exact word they use), in spite of the fact that they are so touchy about being labeled "apologists," as if it's a perjorative.

Re: DCP Responds to Getting "Fired" from the Review

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:47 am
by _Kishkumen
Ceeboo wrote:Although my scope of knowledge in very narrow concerning the names you list above (I have heard/read of them to some degree), It is my opinion that Bokovoy is near the top of any "defenders of the Mormon faith" list.

in my opinion he is a great guy, brilliant, compassionate, and has long ago earned my deepest respect and admiration. (I frequently enjoy his "light" that he so graciously and humbly shares) :smile:

Just wanted to add him, for what it's worth.

Peace,
Ceeboo


I agree, Ceeboo. But I think David Bokovoy has let it be known that he is no longer going to engage in apologetics.

Re: DCP Responds to Getting "Fired" from the Review

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:58 am
by _harmony
Kishkumen wrote:I agree, Ceeboo. But I think David Bokovoy has let it be known that he is no longer going to engage in apologetics.


David needs a real job.