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Bcspace is having a hard time accepting the alleged dismissal of DCP. A really hard time. He has gone through the denial phase "how do you know it's for real?" and is now in the middle of the mitigation phase "even if it's true {insert faith maintaining phrase}."

My question, why?

Why has bcspaces cogdis denial reaction kicked in so strongly over this?

Space is playing a rhetorical game. He no more has cogdis in regard to this issue than does Kevin or Kishkumen and hell, even me. Space stirs the pot and has proven himself to be an impressive and purposeful distraction.

My $.02.

Seth

BC has been here for many years, and is one of the stalwarts of the remaining vestiges of apologists on this board. We can count the losses by the dozen, but Space is still here, fighting for what he believes in, tooth and nail, to the very end.

He doesn't deserve mockery. He has openly disagreed with Dr. Peterson, and posted "unorthodox" opinions on MAD/MDDB, and questioned endlessly on such opinions. He has a kind of endurance that largely goes unnoticed, because his presence is so familiar.

To use a cliché, if I had to go into battle, Space is the first person I'd enlist for my frontline defence against the enemy, because that kind of loyalty is something you cannot buy today.

Hi Ray, I hope you're well mate.

I do not disagree with anything that you have said about bcspace in how he fights on behalf of Mormonism.
But this isn't a fight between Mormonism and anti Mormonism. It's a scrap between two pro apologists in which it appears that bcspace has blindly and vehemently plunged into in favour of DCP by propagating that:
A. The incident isn't real
And if A fails
B. if the incident is real is doesn't matter

That's what I find intriguing.

It is:

Mormonism - DCP - Worship

just like

Scientology - LRH - Woship

I'm just pointing out the usual yellow journalistic creation of narratives that goes on in anti Mormonism. I don't know DCP that well and our contact with each other has been 50/50. If he's lost his job, I have human sympathy. But otherwise, it makes no difference to me who's at FAIR or the MI. They do some good and necessary work which I do use from time to time, but I and many others are much better "apologists" than many of those. We stick to actual doctrine and it's application and we don't try to change the Church.

Of course the narrative will now be "Bcspace said that DCP doesn't stick to doctrine and tries to change the Church." which if one reads carefully, I didn't say.

bcspace wrote:Of course the narrative will now be "Bcspace said that DCP doesn't stick to doctrine and tries to change the Church." which if one reads carefully, I didn't say.

You said:

bcspace wrote:They do some good and necessary work which I do use from time to time, but I and many others are much better "apologists" than many of those. We stick to actual doctrine and it's application and we don't try to change the Church.

I'm sure Dr. Peterson will greatly appreciate your offhanded remark. Maybe you can be the one to replace him after he cleans his desk out.

Paul O

A. The incident isn't real
And if A fails
B. if the incident is real is doesn't matter

That's what I find intriguing.

It's all about two alleged emails being bandied about as if they were real. There may or may not be some truth to the "facts" presented, but in that case, all you have is historical fiction.

bcspace wrote:

A. The incident isn't real
And if A fails
B. if the incident is real is doesn't matter

That's what I find intriguing.

It's all about two alleged emails being bandied about as if they were real. There may or may not be some truth to the "facts" presented, but in that case, all you have is historical fiction.

Naah. The interest of this and similar threads is watching you construct prepared positions you can retreat to as required:

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bcspace wrote:Perhaps he was fired and perhaps the emails are still fake; just more mental masturbation designed for your consumption.

Several people have stated that they have confirmation that these emails are genuine. They certainly read that way, in both style and content. Most significant is DCP's complete failure over several days to deny that they are real. The chance that they are not genuine is becoming vanishingly small on any estimate based on practical judgement. Live with that.

bcspace isn't a poster, he's a troll.

Every post he makes (except when talking about anime and other nerdboy fetishes) is to this end. 99% of the time his insane, often racist posts are ignored, so he's always looking for opportunities to troll other posters.

It's so completely obvious that these emails are authentic; bcspace has the perfect opportunity to grab a little attention by arguing for an absurd position.


Remember, this is the poor person who loves rich Republicans, identifies with the birther and tea party movement, rejoiced over Trayvon Martin's murder, and above all, is the self-appointed judge of "real Mormons" and doctrine.

I concur with Ray, if I needed a human shield to take some shrapnel for me in battle, bcspace would be a top choice (and not because I could safely hide all my fiends behind his fat, fat, fat ass.)