Ensign article about husband apostatizing: BULL crap!!

[Guest]

MAJOR FAIL there LDS Inc.

http://www.LDS.org/ensign/2012/07/when- ... g?lang=eng

[_Kishkumen]

MAJOR FAIL there LDS Inc.

http://www.LDS.org/ensign/2012/07/when- ... g?lang=eng

I think this started as a newspaper article or blogpost elsewhere.

[_Polygamy-Porter]

Joanna Brooks has some interesting comments under her posting of this article:

https://www.Facebook.com/joanna.brooks.71

John's Facebook page as well..

https://www.Facebook.com/johndehlin

[_Polygamy-Porter]

This article is contrived bull crap.


"NAME WITHHELD" is bull crap. Like a member sent this in?


LOOK at the image used in the print and PDF version for this article:

[_Shulem]

Jesus Christ is the gingerbread man with sweet sugar coating. What a joke! Bugger off Jesus!

The last thing I need is Jesus' nasty breath over me. Get lost you slob.

Paul O

[_KevinSim]

This article is contrived bull s***.

"NAME WITHHELD" is bull s***. Like a member sent this in?

Polygamy-Porter, what is so unbelievable about the assertion that a Latter-day Saint sent this article in?

[_Themis]

This article is contrived bull s***.

"NAME WITHHELD" is bull s***. Like a member sent this in?

Polygamy-Porter, what is so unbelievable about the assertion that a Latter-day Saint sent this article in?

I see it as a positive thing. It might help other spouses going through this to stay in the marriage.

[_Fiannan]

A good article! I think too many spouses would go for divorce if they found out their husband/wife was having a hard time with their faith.

And I am quite glad that the wife did not suspect porn as the reason for her husband's lack of belief.

[_MsJack]

What was wrong with the article? Seemed like a pretty positive message to me. I'm glad that it didn't match the "it's okay to leave your spouse if s/he leaves the church" vibe that I get from some Mormons.

[_Infymus]

Some good comments:

The anonymous author mentions times when her husband did things for her not because he wanted to but because she expected him to. To me that sounds like she is attempting to point out that he didn't ever have a strong testimony, a point members like to use for those who become unbelievers. The reasons for a person to become unbelieving are still not addressed, and never will be.

The unbeliever will always be the one who has destroyed the expectations of a celestial marriage and the believer will always be the one who was wronged and that is taught by the loving leaders of the church. The believer will always be the one making all the sacrifices to love their spouse, the efforts of the unbeliever will not be considered.

In spite of this woman's sincere love for her husband, her first love and loyalty are still to the church. Believing that temple marriage in the COJCOLDS is the only way for a marriage to be happy, fulfilling, successful, and valid comes from the church, not from any god or Jesus. All good things would still exist without the COJCOLDS.

And:

I'm not impressed.

It's still the same old passive-aggressive one-sided triteness that Mormonism is made of.

It's still prejudiced, and still assumes that the believer is right, and the unbeliever is wrong and petty.

I find it patronizing, and as usual there are many loose ends and global implications it ignores.

The author expresses sheer selfishness and petty self-serving ends, NOT AT ANY TIME DOES SHE LEND ANY CONSIDERATION TO THE OPPOSING PERSPECTIVE. She is unsympathetic, not discussing any reason WHY her husband "stopped believing" other than the trite and wholly un-explanatory "exercising his agency".

This article does nothing to move the church toward a truly pluralistic paradigm. It talks about the unbeliever like a car that has run out of gas...still good-for-something but not going anywhere until it gets more gas. The article is just about being a good sport about it.