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I finally had a chance to read the article in the July Ensign about when a husband stops believing. The new dedication to her marriage by this woman to be a more loving and supportive wife seems like advice in which the FP/Q12 probably endorses.

I cannot help but think that your typical Peter priesthood holder would not have the same type of reaction and new submissiveness to his wife and marriage. Nor do I think that the FP/Q12 would endorse this submissive attitude toward an apostate wife.

Do you think that the husband would be encouraged to leave the wife? Personally, I don't see that being the case, either. If the brethren advise according to the doctrine, the husband would stay married to the wife, continue keeping his covenants and being active in Church, and if the wife didn't change her ways, the husband would be given another wife who was faithful in the hereafter.

liz3564 wrote:Do you think that the husband would be encouraged to leave the wife? Personally, I don't see that being the case, either. If the brethren advise according to the doctrine, the husband would stay married to the wife, continue keeping his covenants and being active in Church, and if the wife didn't change her ways, the husband would be given another wife who was faithful in the hereafter.

I agree with Liz3564. If by some bizarre twist of fate my wife were to stop believing in the truthfulness of the LDS Church, that wouldn't affect my resolve to stay married to her one bit. I love her too much to let something like her beliefs change my commitment to my marriage vows. It would make things pretty uncomfortable, me going to church and her not, but I would do it nonetheless.

I've always kind of laughed inside myself when I've heard about the submissiveness thing. My wife doesn't submit to me; she never has and I doubt she ever will. We talk out the important issues and make our decisions together.

From what you've said, it appears the teaching is to stay by your spouse despite her/him leaving the Mormon faith?

If so, I'm very glad to know of it.

That is much better than encouraging members to leave their marriage or resent their partner.

Do more men leave the church than women?

liz3564 wrote:Do you think that the husband would be encouraged to leave the wife? Personally, I don't see that being the case, either. If the brethren advise according to the doctrine, the husband would stay married to the wife, continue keeping his covenants and being active in Church, and if the wife didn't change her ways, the husband would be given another wife who was faithful in the hereafter.

I don't think divorce would be advised in either case. But where the woman is possibly encouraged to be submissive and be more loving, in the case of a man having a wife that stops believing, I believe the strategy would be much different. It would be more in line of using priesthood authority and power to bring about change. I also believe that a man would be made to feel more responsible for letting things getting to that point. Having attended many EQ meetings, the pressure to keep your family in line seems to be routinely emphasized.

I cannot help but think that your typical Peter priesthood holder would not have the same type of reaction and new submissiveness to his wife and marriage. Nor do I think that the FP/Q12 would endorse this submissive attitude toward an apostate wife.

She left him with some beer in the fridge. Didn't have a chance to cop an attitude. cf Singles Ward.

bcspace wrote:

I cannot help but think that your typical Peter priesthood holder would not have the same type of reaction and new submissiveness to his wife and marriage. Nor do I think that the FP/Q12 would endorse this submissive attitude toward an apostate wife.

She left him with some beer in the fridge. Didn't have a chance to cop an attitude. cf Singles Ward.

Singles Ward, That was a pretty funny movie.

liz3564 wrote:Do you think that the husband would be encouraged to leave the wife? Personally, I don't see that being the case, either. If the brethren advise according to the doctrine, the husband would stay married to the wife, continue keeping his covenants and being active in Church, and if the wife didn't change her ways, the husband would be given another wife who was faithful in the hereafter.

You see, that's why Mormonism is rubbish.

If God pitches up to me in heaven and says "look Drifting, I know Mrs Drifiting didn't live up to her covenants so I'm casting her out and giving you a new one" He would get a knee to the Omnipotent Grollies. I choose who I am married to, not Him and frankly I love her more than I love Him covenants or no covenants.

Drifting wrote:If God pitches up to me in heaven and says "look Drifting, I know Mrs Drifiting didn't live up to her covenants so I'm casting her out and giving you a new one" He would get a knee to the Omnipotent Grollies. I choose who I am married to, not Him and frankly I love her more than I love Him covenants or no covenants.

Looks like Mrs. Drifting a a very lucky woman. But what is greater in the eyes of your most hardened and devout Peter priesthood holder, the power of love or power of priesthood? Can you really see some of these guys say in regard to their unbelieving wife that they would become more loving and not bring up the things which is bringing about apostate feelings? Isn't in the mindset of these men that the priesthood can move mountains? I know what some of you will say: Priesthood is Love!