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Anti-Mormonism is nothing more than...
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:39 pm
by _Doctor CamNC4Me
... than quotes and actions by the prophets and apostles that members wish they could forget.
I'm reminded of this every time I see an apologist post here.
- VRDRC
Re: Anti-Mormonism is nothing more than...
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:38 pm
by _bcspace
... than the non existent or out of context, third hand, presentist, alleged quotes and actions by the prophets and apostles.
FIFY
Re: Anti-Mormonism is nothing more than...
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:54 pm
by _Doctor CamNC4Me
Brigham Young Interview by Horace Greeley
H.G. — What is the position of your Church with respect to Slavery?
B.Y. — We consider it of Divine institution, and not to be abolished until the curse pronounced on Ham shall have been removed from his descendants.
H.G. — Do your Territorial laws uphold Slavery?
B.Y. — Those laws are printed — you can read them for yourself. If slaves are brought here by those who owned them in the States, we do not favor their escape from the service of those owners.
H.G. — Am I to infer that Utah, if admitted as a member of the Federal Union, will be a Slave State?
B.Y. — No; she will be a Free State. Slavery here would prove useless and unprofitable. I regard it generally as a curse to the masters. I myself hire many laborers and pay them fair wages; I could not afford to own them. I can do better than subject myself to an obligation to feed and clothe their families, to provide and care for them, in sickness and health. Utah is not adapted to Slave Labor.
Anti-Mormonism at its finest...
- VRDRC
Re: Anti-Mormonism is nothing more than...
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:14 pm
by _Sophocles
bcspace wrote:... than the non existent or out of context, third hand, presentist, alleged quotes and actions by the prophets and apostles.
FIFY
It sounds like bspace is saying that people who are deceptive about what prophets and apostles said and did in order to harm the church deserve the label anti-Mormon, implying that those who are honest and forthright about it do not.
Can't say I disagree.
Re: Anti-Mormonism is nothing more than...
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:22 pm
by _sansfoy
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Brigham Young Interview by Horace Greeley
H.G. — What is the position of your Church with respect to Slavery?
B.Y. — We consider it of Divine institution, and not to be abolished until the curse pronounced on Ham shall have been removed from his descendants.
H.G. — Do your Territorial laws uphold Slavery?
B.Y. — Those laws are printed — you can read them for yourself. If slaves are brought here by those who owned them in the States, we do not favor their escape from the service of those owners.
H.G. — Am I to infer that Utah, if admitted as a member of the Federal Union, will be a Slave State?
B.Y. — No; she will be a Free State. Slavery here would prove useless and unprofitable. I regard it generally as a curse to the masters. I myself hire many laborers and pay them fair wages; I could not afford to own them. I can do better than subject myself to an obligation to feed and clothe their families, to provide and care for them, in sickness and health. Utah is not adapted to Slave Labor.
Anti-Mormonism at its finest...
- VRDRC
He wants it both ways. It's kind of the 19th century equivalent of "I don't know that we teach that."