I am enjoying certain insights on the latest meltdown from the Patheos blogger "mogget."
In addition to clicking on those buttons that animate the Social Media Reality, folks who wish to see a FARMS-style apologetic presence at the Maxwell Institute are urged to contact various leaders who are part of the decision-making process. And among the targets of this activism are our very own general authorities:
If you have personal friendship or ties to any General Authorities, express your concern about the situation, and your appreciation for everything FARMS has done. Contact BYU’s President Samuelson, and let him know how you feel. Contact BYU’s administration, and let them know how you feel. Contact the Maxwell Institute, and let them know how you feel.
That thing with the general authorities? Don’t do it. Just don’t.
And this I particularly like:
Certain kinds of apologetic argument take some sophisticated approaches in order to be done well. Fortunately, there is a very powerful apologetic approach that takes nothing more than insight, inspiration, and initiative. All you have to do is sit down and articulate why the Book of Mormon is worth reading or the LDS lifestyle worth living. And if you have a web site, collect and publish such stories from your readers who do not themselves have your publishing platform. In other words, most of us need to just keep doing what we’re doing and we will be keeping the apologetic tradition alive and successful.
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"Petition wasn’t meant to start a witch hunt as I’ve said 6000 times." ~ Hanna Seariac, LDS apologist
And wowzers, the omnipresent Bryce Haymond, one-man mob for the OMID faction, responds to "mogget" too!
A few comments, Mogs. We do not “wish to see a FARMS-style apologetic presence at the Maxwell Institute.” We want to see FARMS live on, but that will not necessarily be at the Institute. It may well be re-grouped as an independent organization once again.
Why can’t members talk to General Authorities? Since General Authorities (i.e. President Hinckley) were involved in the merge of FARMS with BYU, they should at least be aware of its demise, and of those who are concerned about its future. We’re not suggesting people horde the Brethren, or harass them like paparazzi. We’re suggesting they talk to them about it, if they have personal acquaintances, as you note through “love and wisdom,” so they know what’s going on.
Armchair bloggers are not sufficient for apologetic response in the Church. As Elder Packer has well noted, bloggers can do a tremendous work for the good of the Church on the Internet, but I do not think they are well-equipped to address the sophisticated claims and attacks by many of the Church’s most sly detractors and their organizations. What about them?
Something tells me that Bryce would provide an apologetic for MI in response to every last one of its non-fans if he had the time. I am certain he has the energy and enthusiasm.
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"Petition wasn’t meant to start a witch hunt as I’ve said 6000 times." ~ Hanna Seariac, LDS apologist
Lobbying the GAs? Bunch of ark-steadying apostates!
"It doesn't seem fair, does it Norm--that I should have so much knowledge when there are people in the world that have to go to bed stupid every night." -- Clifford C. Clavin, USPS
"¡No contaban con mi astucia!" -- El Chapulin Colorado
Bob Loblaw wrote:Lobbying the GAs? Bunch of ark-steadying apostates!
It's so difficult to know if one is steadying the ark or doing of one's free will to bring to pass much rightousness,
until it's too late.
zap.
"And the human knew the source of life, the woman of him, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, 'I have procreated a man with Yahweh.'" Gen. 4:1, interior quote translated by D. Bokovoy.
Had an interesting conversation with Brother Haymond on his "live chat" feature. He said he didn't see the personal attacks or hostility from FARMS, so I mentioned Midgley's nasty piece on Grant Palmer. He said, because a book doesn't come out of thin air, an author's character is fair game. My impression is that he sees the personal attacks and at least tacitly approves of them.
"It doesn't seem fair, does it Norm--that I should have so much knowledge when there are people in the world that have to go to bed stupid every night." -- Clifford C. Clavin, USPS
"¡No contaban con mi astucia!" -- El Chapulin Colorado
Bob Loblaw wrote:Had an interesting conversation with Brother Haymond on his "live chat" feature. He said he didn't see the personal attacks or hostility from FARMS, so I mentioned Midgley's nasty piece on Grant Palmer. He said, because a book doesn't come out of thin air, an author's character is fair game. My impression is that he sees the personal attacks and at least tacitly approves of them.
Well, I am concerned about his obsessive interest in President Monson. Perhaps it is Bryce Haymond's character that needs closer examination.
"Petition wasn’t meant to start a witch hunt as I’ve said 6000 times." ~ Hanna Seariac, LDS apologist