WTF? Now Mormons Believe in the Trinity?

[_consiglieri]

After 34-years as a member of the LDS Church, I just got informed that Mormons believe in the Trinity.

This is in complete contradiction to what I grew up hearing in the Church.

The strange thing is I didn't hear this from my Baptist neighbor down the street, or the Catholic across the street.

Instead, I have to hear it from the LDS Church's official website:

Do Mormons believe in the Trinity?

Mormons most commonly use the term “Godhead” to refer to the Trinity. The first article of faith for the Latter-day Saints reads: “We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.” Latter-day Saints believe God the Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost are one in will and purpose but are not literally the same being or substance, as conceptions of the Holy Trinity commonly imply.

http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/mormonism-101#C5

This attempt to try to mainstream Mormonism is a bit much for me.

First, when Mormons say "the Godhead," they are NOT referring to "the Trinity."

And the Holy Trinity does not "commonly imply" that the Father, Son and Holy Ghost are the same substance; it is an essential part of the creed.

Starting to get a bit sick of the whole PC thing.

Who exactly is it we are trying to impress?

Or fool?

All the Best!

--Consiglieri

[_Nortinski]

Who exactly is it we are trying to impress?

Or fool?

Everyone who doesn't know better.

[_Aristotle Smith]

consig,

If you read it like a lawyer, you can make it say the truth about Mormonism. The whole point of the "Mormonism 101" page is to give answers that are truthful only by twisting yourself into a pretzel. Because someone, somewhere could implausibly interpret Mormonism 101 in the correct way, it isn't a lie in the mind of President Newsroom.

[_Tobin]

Would you feel better Consig if we changed the name from "Godhead" to tri-unity?

[_3sheets2thewind]

Most people believe in a Supreme being, even though they may call Him by different names.

[_consiglieri]

I hear you, Aristotle.

I have also heard some well-educated Mormons (even on this board) claim that we do believe in the Trinity, and then try to define (at least a version of) the Trinity as what Mormons believe.

This all seems so deceitful to me.

Why not just say that Mormons do not believe the Trinity and where they differ?

They don't have to call it an abomination in the sight of God or anything, but just be honest, for crying out loud.

It would be a perfect opportunity to put in a line or two about the apostasy.

But instead they want to make it sound like Mormons do believe in the Trinity while parsing words to the point that they really aren't saying that at all.

Except for the part where they say that when Mormons say they believe in the Godhead, that means they are saying they believe in the Trinity.

This is so transparent.

And embrarassing, frankly.

All the Best!

--Consiglieri

[_consiglieri]

Would you feel better Consig if we changed the name from "Godhead" to tri-unity?

I know you are being funny here, Tobin, but how about if we just say that we believe that God the Father and Jesus have a body of flesh and bones, as tangible as man's, and that the Holy Ghost is a personage of spirit?

I mean, is the point of answering FAQ's on the official Mormon website to clarify or to obscure?

All the Best!

--Consiglieri

[_Tobin]

Would you feel better Consig if we changed the name from "Godhead" to tri-unity?

I know you are being funny here, Tobin, but how about if we just say that we believe that God the Father and Jesus have a body of flesh and bones, as tangible as man's, and that the Holy Ghost is a personage of spirit?

I mean, is the point of answering FAQ's on the official Mormon website to clarify or to obscure?

All the Best!

--Consiglieri

But we don't really believe they are truly separate beings at all. We believe they are one. I view them like the borg in star trek (funny as that sounds), where their will and purposes are united - and they know each others minds. So maybe Mormons should state they think God is like the borg if we are going for accuracy.

[_Cicero]

how about if we just say that we believe that God the Father and Jesus have a body of flesh and bones, as tangible as man's, and that the Holy Ghost is a personage of spirit?

I don’t know that we teach it. I don’t know that we emphasize it. I haven’t heard it discussed for a long time in public discourse.

[_Nortinski]

So maybe Mormons should state they think God is like the borg if we are going for accuracy.

Every knee shall bow and every tongue will confess that resistance is futile.