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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/12/scien ... .html?_r=4

New York Times wrote:North and South America were first populated by three waves of migrants...rather than just a single migration

Which of course the Book of Mormon has taught for decades now. Of course these three waves are the Jaredites, the Lehites, and the Mulekites. Now go back to church you filthy apostates.

In all seriousness, it's a nice article showing that DNA evidence now corroborates a linguistic hypothesis put forward in 1987. Linguist Joseph Greenberg hypothesized that three ancestral languages are the roots of Native American languages. The DNA patterns seem to corroborate his hypothetical language groupings.

No, none of the parent languages are Hebrew or reformed Egyptian. Of course FARMS long ago assured us all that only idiots (including prophets, seers, and revelators) could possibly come to that conclusion based on a reading of the Book of Mormon and the statements of LDS prophets.

Aristotle Smith wrote:Which of course the Book of Mormon has taught for decades now. Of course these three waves are the Jaredites, the Lehites, and the Mulekites. Now go back to church you filthy apostates.

Three migrations? How could Joseph Smith have known?!?

Aristotle Smith wrote:
In all seriousness, it's a nice article showing that DNA evidence now corroborates a linguistic hypothesis put forward in 1987. Linguist Joseph Greenberg hypothesized that three ancestral languages are the roots of Native American languages. The DNA patterns seem to corroborate his hypothetical language groupings.

No, none of the parent languages are Hebrew or reformed Egyptian. Of course FARMS long ago assured us all that only idiots (including prophets, seers, and revelators) could possibly come to that conclusion based on a reading of the Book of Mormon and the statements of LDS prophets.

What do you make of this:

Hebrews in Ancient America (Not a Book of Mormon thing).

Apart from your contrary views, where you accept Christianity, but consign Mormonism to the dustbin.

You're a "liberal" Christian, right? Is my understanding right?

Another link

http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/new ... ds-644274/

RayAgostini wrote:
Hebrews in Ancient America (Not a Book of Mormon thing).

Wow! The Bat Creek Stone!

http://en.fairmormon.org/Book_of_Mormon ... reek_Stone

Darth J wrote:
Wow! The Bat Creek Stone!

http://en.fairmormon.org/Book_of_Mormon ... reek_Stone

I thought you believe that FAIR is just another "mopologetic" deception.

I learn something new everyday.

RayAgostini wrote:What do you make of this:

Hebrews in Ancient America (Not a Book of Mormon thing).

Apart from your contrary views, where you accept Christianity, but consign Mormonism to the dustbin.

You're a "liberal" Christian, right? Is my understanding right?

Saying the Danish descend from the tribe of Dan is simply not plausible and I'm aware of no evidence for this. As for the bat-creek stone, it's a hoax. Finally, as to the other finds, I'm no paleographer but to my untrained eye they look too modern, and hence would be hoaxes.

As for my status as a Christian, I don't claim to be liberal or Evangelical because I don't think either side wants me. Evangelicals probably would consider me liberal, while liberals would consider me Evangelical. I'm not an inerrantist and I apply the same historical critical methods to the Bible as I did to the Book of Mormon and the Book of Abraham. This leads me to see way too much of the Bible as unhistorical for almost every Evangelical. Though Peter Enns and I see eye to eye on many/most(?) historical issues and he still identifies as Evangelical (though again, most Evangelicals probably think he has left the fold). As for liberals, I do hold to the divinity of Jesus and a literal resurrection, and denying those two things is the general hallmark of a liberal Christian. Also for good measure I annoy liberals by taking the ecumenical creeds seriously and being more conservative on social issues.

Simply put, I'm a pariah no matter where I go.

Ari-- you sound reasonably Catholic to me.