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A Mormon Argument Against Atheism
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:23 pm
by _Ernst Blofeld
( A ) Humans have intrinsic dignity. THIS IS TRUE
( B ) Any worldview that cannot explain why Humans have intrinsic dignity fails to be correct. THIS TRUE
( C ) If atheism is true, man is the measure of all things. THIS IS TRUE
( D ) If man is the measure of all things, there is no intrinsic value to apes that came from slime. THIS IS TRUE
( E ) In Mormonism, all humans have to the potential to be divine beings of the highest quality if they enter into the correct covenants. THIS IS TRUE
( F ) Mormonism is a better belief than Atheism THIS MUST BE TRUE
Re: A Mormon Argument Against Atheism
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:25 pm
by _Philo Sofee
Your logic is severely flawed.
Re: A Mormon Argument Against Atheism
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:28 pm
by _SteelHead
Somehow turned into a dupe.
Re: A Mormon Argument Against Atheism
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:35 pm
by _Uncle Dale
Ernst Blofeld wrote:...
Any worldview that cannot explain
...
Never met a "worldview" that could explain much of anything.
I have, however, encountered a few atheists who subscribe to
nothing more ornate in the way of a "worldview" than the
scientific method -- a method for discovery and verification,
which may or may not lead its adherents to a particular "view"
of the "world" of time-space, matter and energy.
If Mormonism is inherently "better" than Science, then that would
be a fact worth knowing. And, if Mormonism is inherently "better"
than no personal profession of a deity/supernatural, then that too
would be a fact worth knowing.
I've paid fairly good attention to these matters for several decades
now, and have not even been convinced that Mormonism presents
a valid definition of "atheism," much less explicates what the
"worldview" of this planet's atheists might be comprised of.
But -- I'm always ready to be taught something new.
UD
Re: A Mormon Argument Against Atheism
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:38 pm
by _SteelHead
Using Blofeild's logic:

( A ) Humans have intrinsic dignity. THIS IS TRUE
False. your'e demonstrating that you've never lived where people are not even able to eke out survival.
( B ) Any worldview that cannot explain why Humans have intrinsic dignity fails to be correct. THIS TRUE
False. See A.
( C ) If atheism is true, man is the measure of all things. THIS IS TRUE
False. Not even implied in Atheism. Man is a by product of a natural product in an infinite universe, quite possibly littered with millions of other sentient species.
( D ) If man is the measure of all things, there is no intrinsic value to apes that came from slime. THIS IS TRUE
False. My life has value to me.
( E ) In Mormonism, all humans have to the potential to be divine beings of the highest quality if they enter into the correct covenants. THIS IS TRUE
False. Claimed, but in no way provable.
( F ) Mormonism is a better belief than Atheism THIS MUST BE TRUE
False. See above. And the penguin.
Re: A Mormon Argument Against Atheism
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:29 am
by _Sethbag
Blofeld, do you know the meaning of non sequitur? I think there's also begging the question, and some bald assertions.
Basically, you don't demonstrate anything. You just believe certain things and announce that your beliefs as true. We are apparently to take your word for it merely because you say so.
"A Mormon Argument Against Atheism" is perhaps the most inapt title you could have chosen for what you presented.
Re: A Mormon Argument Against Atheism
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:37 am
by _Equality
Love is blind; God is Love; Stevie Wonder is blind; therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.
That's about as solid as the logic of the original post.
Re: A Mormon Argument Against Atheism
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:22 am
by _Ernst Blofeld
Philo Sofee wrote:Your logic is severely flawed.
Followed up by no example. Suprised? I'm not.
Re: A Mormon Argument Against Atheism
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:24 am
by _Equality
Ernst Blofeld wrote:Philo Sofee wrote:Your logic is severely flawed.
Followed up by no example. Suprised? I'm not.
There are plenty of examples given in this thread already. I am sure many are just choosing not to engage in a battle of wits with someone who is clearly unarmed.
Re: A Mormon Argument Against Atheism
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:25 am
by _Ernst Blofeld
SteelHead wrote:False. your'e demonstrating that you've never lived where people are not even able to eke out survival.
I wouldn't visit such a place because there would be no people there to visit, since no one could survive. Try writing something that isn't self refuting and we'll do this again.