Will Schryver's article in trouble well before MsJack post
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:45 pm
I was poking around some cached docs on Google and found something interesting. Perhaps this has been discussed here before, but I must have missed it.
Below is a posting at MADB by David Bokovoy on 4/11/11 in a thread entitled "Will Schryver and the KEP."
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Hopefully this link will work, but this is where I found it:
http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/540 ... d-the-kep/
As you can see from the above, the email from Schryver to DCP, wherein he complains about a conspiracy to stop MI's publication of his KEP article, is dated March 29, 2011, over a month before MsJack posted her analysis of Schryver's misogyny on May 1, 2011. Also, according to Will's email, the pressure to stop his article was brought by those associated with MI. David's post also quotes Kevin Graham as stating that 3 folks on MADB (and "faithful LDS") had contacted him about Will's article with concerns about the substance of the article (as well as Will's online "mannerisms" -- likely a reference to his rampant misogyny).
Thus, it appears that long before MsJack's post appeared on May 1, Will was already complaining about "insiders" trying to kill his article. Seems to me that Will's recent "woe is me" post on his blog leaves this very relevant information out, and he ought to apologize to MsJack (and this bb) for blaming his "misfortune" on her.
Below is a posting at MADB by David Bokovoy on 4/11/11 in a thread entitled "Will Schryver and the KEP."
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David Bokovoy on MADB wrote:This information has been made public and it therefore needs to be posted on this board for readers to see. I do not want to have any misconceptions on this issue circulating. Will Schryver has chosen to make public a portion of a recent email exchange by posting the contents of the letter online. Here is what he shared:From: William Schryver [xxx@yyy.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 11:21 AM
To: 'Daniel Peterson'
Subject: Distressing News
I have been informed, in a manner that lends credence to the account, that David Bokovoy (and unnamed others—most likely Don Bradley* and Sam Brown*) have been engaged in a “behind the scenes” campaign to persuade people associated with the Maxwell Institute to distance themselves from me and my “discredited” research/findings concerning the Kirtland Egyptian Papers. Their activities have even come to the attention of several people associated with the GSTP — (in real life information eliminated) and Kevin Graham in particular. Kevin Graham, in the past couple days, has made several references to correspondence between him and Bokovoy, and he (Graham) is crowing with giddy exultation over the fact that “the responsible LDS apologists” have allegedly rejected me and my findings.
In the same thread, Kevin Graham made the following statement regarding Will’s work on the KEP:I can tell you that I have been contacted out of the blue by no less than three people who actively participate on the MAD apologetics board, and they are faithful LDS who express serious concerns with not only Will Schryver's mannerisms, but also his apologetic arguments dealing with the KEP. To quote one concerned member, "I am even more concerned that the Maxwell Institute is even considering his work for publication (I have a lot of respect for Paul Hoskisson), and publication would only hurt their cause and reputation in the academic community.
Will assumed that this statement confirmed his accusations of my “behind the scenes” campaign to destroy his efforts to publish. Using language he enjoys writing as a description of me, Will responded:Mmmmm ... I wonder who the author of this quote might be?
No doubt someone the denizens of the GSTP hold in high esteem.
I'm reminded again of Joe Walsh's sage observation:
"You can only judge the distance by the company you keep."
Now for those who have been subjected to these claims, I would like to offer a public clarification:
1. Despite my respect for Kevin and the fact that I would enjoy getting together with him and discussing any academic subject, he and I have never once conversed about the KEP and/or Will’s research. It hasn’t happened.
2. I don’t mean to be offensive to Will, but given my views of the Book of Abraham, I am simply not very interested in the KEP, let alone pursuing in detail any of Will’s theories. I have enough on my academic plate preparing a couple of articles for publication and finishing and publishing my dissertation.
3. If I have suggestions for what the Maxwell Institute should or should not publish, I would never engage in a “behind the scenes” campaign. I would do it out in the open for all to see. I believe I have published at least eight articles with the Maxwell Institute and have been used at least six or seven times this school year as a peer reviewer for what the Institute should or should not publish. I just sent back a peer review last week, and now that the article has appeared, can state that I gave a hearty prepublication endorsement of Kevin Barney’s recent article sent to me by Paul Hoskisson entitled, “On Elkenah as Canaanite El.” Despite the fact that I hold other theories on a couple of minor points, it's a great read, I recommend it!
So in other words, despite Will’s assertion, I would simply never write the words, "I am even more concerned that the Maxwell Institute is even considering his work for publication (I have a lot of respect for Paul Hoskisson), and publication would only hurt their cause and reputation in the academic community.”
These were not my words. Though I am not employed by the Institute, I feel very much a part of it and would never speak of it as "their cause." Their cause is my cause.
Hence, if I felt this way, I wouldn’t “work behind the scenes,” in the manner Will assumes, instead, I would tell Paul Hoskisson directly that I don't think the Institute should publish the piece. In fact, because of Will’s allegations, Paul invited me to write a response to Will’s theories in a forthcoming publication of the Journal of Restoration Scripture. I thanked him for the offer, but shared with him the fact that I am truly not interested in addressing the topic.
Please note, if Will’s theories are eventually published in the Journal of Restoration Scripture, it will be a noteworthy accomplishment in which he should take considerable pride. I know how difficult it is to get an article published in the journal. However, assuming that this occurs, publication by the Institute will not make his theories correct, nor suggest that the Institute officially endorses Will’s views, but it will indicate that they deserve serious consideration.
Personally, I truly hope that he succeeds.
Sincerely,
--David Bokovoy
Hopefully this link will work, but this is where I found it:
http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/540 ... d-the-kep/
As you can see from the above, the email from Schryver to DCP, wherein he complains about a conspiracy to stop MI's publication of his KEP article, is dated March 29, 2011, over a month before MsJack posted her analysis of Schryver's misogyny on May 1, 2011. Also, according to Will's email, the pressure to stop his article was brought by those associated with MI. David's post also quotes Kevin Graham as stating that 3 folks on MADB (and "faithful LDS") had contacted him about Will's article with concerns about the substance of the article (as well as Will's online "mannerisms" -- likely a reference to his rampant misogyny).
Thus, it appears that long before MsJack's post appeared on May 1, Will was already complaining about "insiders" trying to kill his article. Seems to me that Will's recent "woe is me" post on his blog leaves this very relevant information out, and he ought to apologize to MsJack (and this bb) for blaming his "misfortune" on her.
