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Democrats still "Mortal Enemies" (Benson declaration)
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 2:40 pm
by _The1Guy
If you are a Democrat (a socialist, liberal or anything other than a conservative or Republican), you are a "mortal enemy," as declared by Ezra T. Benson in an address at BYU (1963) entitled, A RACE AGAINST TIME. And that label has not been lifted but only substantiated in recent years. You will not find a Democrat elected where there is a Mormon majority. And that was done by design by the top echelons of the Church. A mortal enemy is someone you fight to the death. Beware! There are Danites that will likely carry it out.
Re: Democrats still "Mortal Enemies" (Benson declaration)
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:14 pm
by _bcspace
If you are a Democrat (a socialist, liberal or anything other than a conservative or Republican), you are a "mortal enemy," as declared by Ezra T. Benson in an address at BYU (1963) entitled, A RACE AGAINST TIME. And that label has not been lifted but only substantiated in recent years.
A mere comparison with doctrine shows this to be the case. Socialism and the welfare state, gay marriage, abortion as a general method of birth control, war, feminism (third wave and higher), to name a few of the more obvious ones. These strike at the very core of LDS doctrine; agency and personal responsibility. Law of Consecration. The family. And morality/chastity.
You will not find a Democrat elected where there is a Mormon majority. And that was done by design by the top echelons of the Church.
Paranoia. It's merely a matter of fact, not by design. LDS doctrine and the Democratic party are so obviously incompatible an LDS majority that is not in an apostate condition will not vote against the doctrine.
A mortal enemy is someone you fight to the death. Beware! There are Danites that will likely carry it out.
More paranoia. In a spiritual sense though, yes, mortal enemies.
Re: Democrats still "Mortal Enemies" (Benson declaration)
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 6:12 pm
by _Drifting
What, specifically, would a Republcan President do that the current Democrat President isn't already doing?
Please be specific.
Re: Democrats still "Mortal Enemies" (Benson declaration)
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 6:16 pm
by _Darth J
The1Guy wrote:You will not find a Democrat elected where there is a Mormon majority.
Utah 2nd District Congressman Jim MathesonSalt Lake County Mayor David CarroonSalt Lake County District Attorney Sim GillUtah History Encyclopedia: Democratic PartyIn 1990, however, Utah Democrats re-elected Wayne Owens in the second district, and surprised most local commentators by electing Bill Orton to an open seat in congress from the strongly Republican Third Congressional District, while running a strong race in the First Congressional District. Although still in a distinct minority in state offices, and still exhibiting the division between its conservative and liberal wings, by the early 1990s, Utah Democrats seemed stronger and more politically viable than they had for nearly two decades.
Re: Democrats still "Mortal Enemies" (Benson declaration)
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:56 pm
by _The1Guy
Salt Lake County has a non-Mormon majority, therefore Carroon and Gill had a chance. Jim Matheson won because his district was made up of a non-Mormon majority, except where his district was gerrymandered by the Republican State Legislature into Utah County, where he lost convincingly because it is overwhelmingly Mormon.
Re: Democrats still "Mortal Enemies" (Benson declaration)
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:01 pm
by _Darth J
The1Guy wrote:Salt Lake County has a non-Mormon majority, therefore Carroon and Gill had a chance. Jim Matheson won because his district was made up of a non-Mormon majority, except where his district was gerrymandered by the Republican State Legislature into Utah County, where he lost convincingly because it is overwhelmingly Mormon.
Yes, I'm sure the huge plurality of Mormons that make up Utah's single largest demographic group played no role in these Democrats being elected. Much like how Utah's huge LDS demographic has nothing to do with Utah's per capita rate of online porn subscriptions.
Re: Democrats still "Mortal Enemies" (Benson declaration)
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:10 pm
by _The1Guy
Drifting wrote:What, specifically, would a Republcan President do that the current Democrat President isn't already doing?
Please be specific.
(1) The House Republicans have repeatedly stated that they want to do away with Obamacare. With a Republican President and a few more Senators they very well could do it. (2) A Republican President with the help of a Republican congress will balance the budget by cutting social programs such as Medicade, Medicare, Social Security, etc. (But not Defense) (3) A Republican President will do everything he can to keep taxes from rising on the wealthiest among us.
Re: Democrats still "Mortal Enemies" (Benson declaration)
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:35 pm
by _The1Guy
bcspace wrote:If you are a Democrat (a socialist, liberal or anything other than a conservative or Republican), you are a "mortal enemy," as declared by Ezra T. Benson in an address at BYU (1963) entitled, A RACE AGAINST TIME. And that label has not been lifted but only substantiated in recent years.
A mere comparison with doctrine shows this to be the case. Socialism and the welfare state, gay marriage, abortion as a general method of birth control, war, feminism (third wave and higher), to name a few of the more obvious ones. These strike at the very core of LDS doctrine; agency and personal responsibility. Law of Consecration. The family. And morality/chastity.
You will not find a Democrat elected where there is a Mormon majority. And that was done by design by the top echelons of the Church.
Paranoia. It's merely a matter of fact, not by design. LDS doctrine and the Democratic party are so obviously incompatible an LDS majority that is not in an apostate condition will not vote against the doctrine.
A mortal enemy is someone you fight to the death. Beware! There are Danites that will likely carry it out.
More paranoia. In a spiritual sense though, yes, mortal enemies.
You have given me a lot to respond to, BC. First, what is socialism? It is nothing more than Government involvement in business activities that could be handled by business alone. Communism is State ownership of all the means of production (and Business).
Our founding fathers were socialists. They setup government regulation of Commerce. Commerce can certainly regulate itself, right? They set up an Army and Navy run by the government, which very well could have been privatized from the beginning. For heaven sakes, they set up a government when a feudal society made up of warlords could have provided no government interference at all. They were socialists and we have seen socialists from that day down to the present in both parties. Every elected official passes laws and regulations that have an effect on you and me and every person and business in this country. They are socialists! And maybe even you are a socialist, or would you rather have the alternatives suggested?
Re: Democrats still "Mortal Enemies" (Benson declaration)
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:44 pm
by _Kevin Graham
Our founding fathers were socialists. They setup government regulation of Commerce. Commerce can certainly regulate itself, right? They set up an Army and Navy run by the government, which very well could have been privatized from the beginning. For heaven sakes, they set up a government when a feudal society made up of warlords could have provided no government interference at all. They were socialists and we have seen socialists from that day down to the present in both parties. Every elected official passes laws and regulations that have an effect on you and me and every person and business in this country. They are socialists! And maybe even you are a socialist, or would you rather have the alternatives suggested?
Don't forget the nationalized bank. It was Alexander Hamilton's idea and well supported among the "fathers."
Re: Democrats still "Mortal Enemies" (Benson declaration)
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 12:37 am
by _The1Guy
A mere comparison with doctrine shows this to be the case. Socialism and the welfare state, gay marriage, abortion as a general method of birth control, war, feminism (third wave and higher), to name a few of the more obvious ones. These strike at the very core of LDS doctrine; agency and personal responsibility. Law of Consecration. The family. And morality/chastity.
Hitler was also apposed to a "welfare state" and gays. The handicapped and homosexuals were systematically rounded up and gassed along with the Jews...all were considered "undesirables" and a threat to the state. At the time that E. T. Benson gave the talk mentioned above, Democrats were pushing for Civil Rights legislation, which the Church adamantly apposed because it struck directly at "the very core of LDS doctrine." And I am sure you are still totally apposed to the change in doctrine that lifted the ban on blacks receiving the priesthood, because that is giving in to the "Mortal enemy" who championed the Civil Rights movement (the Democrats). I find the Democrats (The Progressives) are more loving and caring in seeking ways to include all people inspite of their differences. They are less condemning and judgmental, certainly more Christ-like. Whereas the conservative Republicans hold tight to dogma like the Pharisees of Christ's day.