Joanna Brooks: The Long March Continues

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Joanna Brooks: The Long March Continues

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http://www.religiondispatches.org/dispa ... ck_racism/


Joanna Brooks, the politically correct academic diva of "NOM" cultural Mormonism recently posted the above small essay, which provides a number of insights into why she is considered by many faithful "TBM" Latter day Saints to be a subversive element within the Church who's central approach is to claim "faith" and "belief" in the Church, while in actuality, holding beliefs and values substantially inconsistent with core Church teachings and principles. I intend to follow her postings at Religion Dispatches here in the Celestial, hoping to avoid the "posse" that resides in the lower kingdoms and provoke at least some stimulating, critical discussion of just what she represents within the broader LDS culture and, more specifically, in relation to the Church as the restored visible, organized Kingdom of God on earth.

A few snippets from this essay, and some critique, are called for, just to get a general idea of the culture (not LDS) within which she has developed much of her worldview and philosophy and its interplay and intersection with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints (less various elements of Mormon culture, which is not my primary concern here


Can Anti-Mormon Prejudice be Compared to Anti-Black Racism?

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Mild forms of social discrimination against Mormons are real, Riess wrote. But she offered several reasons why the experience of Mormons differs significantly from that of African Americans, including, as she writes:

“White Mormons can easily blend into white society and ‘hide’ their minority status in ways that persons of color cannot.”
“White Mormons face no systemic cultural poverty. They are on par socioeconomically with the rest of America, and in fact fare slightly better in terms of education and affluence.”
“African-American women, according to statistics released yesterday from the Center for American Progress, have an unemployment rate of 13.3%, nearly double that of white women, and make up 53% of those with no health insurance.”
“White Mormons have no history of enslavement.”


Here we come upon a classic example of what is to be found within the steaming swamps of critical theory (cultural Marxism as an academic body of theory and various sectarian doctrines), critical race theory, and Afrocentrism. The basic idea is, of course, that very little, if anything, has really changed for American blacks since the march on Selma and that the vast majority, if not the totality, of the social pathologies that disproportionately afflict indigenous black Americans are the result of systemic and institutional white racism ("institutional" racism is a derivative cultural Marxist concept (that originally arose within black studies in the seventies, which later mutated into Afrocentrism and "Africanology") that implies racism is not simply an individual or group cultural/psychological trait or prejudice that can impact other human beings, but a pervasive and deeply entrenched inherent aspect of virtually all the primary institutions and fundamental ideas underlying American society, including capitalism, limited, representative government, personal responsibility, individualism, the traditional nuclear family, bourgeoisie notions of merit, hard work, thrift, industry, middle class morality etc.) which is as deeply ingrained and pervasive within white American society as it was 60 years ago.

American society is innately and inherently racist in nature, and white racism permeates virtually all aspects, institutions, and relations within society such that American blacks as a collective are to be understood, at the present time, to be a systematically and pervasively oppressed, disenfranchised, discriminated against, and marginalized people.

All social pathologies within the black community that affect blacks at disproportionate, and in some cases vastly disproportionate rates, including a 70% out of wedlock birth rate, massive family breakdown, violence, drug use, gang involvement, and general over-representative criminality; disproportionate welfare dependence and unemployment, precipitous high school drop out rates etc., are understood to be the direct or indirect result of systemic, institutional racism, and not sociocultural dynamics internal to certain segments of the black community itself. Let's look at the claims by one Jana Riess that she approvingly quotes:

White Mormons can easily blend into white society and ‘hide’ their minority status in ways that persons of color cannot.”


This implies that American blacks need to "hide' their black skin among other Americans in the normal course of affairs - an utterly preposterous claim but, keep in mind, this is representative of the state of contemporary political correct humanities and social science departments and their "studies" disciplines, not serious academic reflection.

“White Mormons face no systemic cultural poverty. They are on par socioeconomically with the rest of America, and in fact fare slightly better in terms of education and affluence.”


Neither do American blacks. This is another preposterous claim having no empirical basis, but which is a part of the systemic and pervasive ideological catechism of the academic Left

“African-American women, according to statistics released yesterday from the Center for American Progress, have an unemployment rate of 13.3%, nearly double that of white women, and make up 53% of those with no health insurance.”


Which is, of course, nothing but naked fact without surrounding context or interpretive background. The modern academy, of course, steeped and marinated in race consciousness, racial/ethnic separatism, and a dualistic Marxian oppressed/oppressor mental set that contaminates every humanities and social science discipline and sub-discipline it touches, cannot conceive of the possibility that the internal social and cultural dynamics of a substantial subset of the American black community is primarily responsible for the fundamental and apparently intractable problems that afflict that community.

To so much as even entertain this possibility, of course, is indicative of the permeation and saturation of the typical white American psych with the reflexive if unconscious racism critical race theory claims exits and determines the entire complexion of American civilization. Here, the dominant, capitalist, white male oppressor class that holds the power in society and determines who can climb and succeed and who will not, "blames the victim."

“White Mormons have no history of enslavement.”


True but:

1. Neither do any living blacks for born since the late 19th century.

2. Mormons had the entire Constitution and Bill of Rights removed from them as American citizens, and became a hunted and persecuted out-group, even, at one point, targeted for extinction by a state government.

3. The idea that slavery, which ended a century and a half ago, is relevant to present black social pathologies, or to a aspect of black culture that produces people like Tupac Shakur, Snoop Dogg, and Tookie Williams (and countless teenagers and youths who parrot their clothing, mannerisms, attitudes, values, and language) in substantially disproportionate numbers, is again, preposterous on its face. It also has not the slightest empirical support, but the Anointed have never needed empirical evidence, facts, or critical, philosophical rigor either in the construction or defense of their abstract, ideologically mediated theoretical modeling of the human condition. It is the ideology itself, and the sense of moral and intellectual anointing that dogmatic adherence to the ideology (and the various activist "movements" such ideology inevitably spawns, including ideologically based activist movements that masquerade as academic disciplines - such as woman's studies, etc.) confers upon its acolytes

One of the ways scholars of race gauge racism is in terms of life chances and outcomes. Is a child born African American in this country statistically more likely to experience different life outcomes than a child born into a non-African-American Mormon family?


Which is, of course, precisely the way the academic Left as avoided intellectual rigor and analytical substance for decades. The answers to the what otherwise would be academic questions have already been answered by the ideology that underlies that very asking of the question: White racism. The questions then, become nothing more than a connecting of dots, not questions to which philosophical rigor and critical thinking are to be applied as if there's actually something to research and learn.

(Thinking about how religion and race intersect for black Mormons would add a new wrinkle to the analysis.)


Yes, especially by leftist academics and philosopher kings who have invested themselves wholly in a collectivist, identity based conception of the human condition.

Analytically, just by the numbers, just for the fact of being born black, a child is statistically more likely to experience poverty, lack of access to health care, lower rates of college education, higher rates of incarceration, worse health outcomes, and death at a younger age than a child born white. Can the same be said of the life chances of a child born into a Mormon family compared to those of a child born into a non-Mormon family? No.


Which to someone who is not a cultural Marxist, critical race theorist, Afrocentrist, or multiculturalist, means utterly nothing, in and of itself. What we would then want to know is why these disproportionate contrasts exist. Long ago, we would have set out to dispassionately study the dynamics and variables surrounding such social phenomena, with the idea that we would try to be as objective, critical, and honest as we could be about the results.

Joanna Brooks, unfortunately, is among a generation and cohort of leftist academics who entered western academia precisely with the idea of colonizing, subverting, restructuring, and turning higher education away from education and toward indoctrination and relentless intellectual conformity centered in their own image and their own vision of the world.

But prejudice against Mormons is not a defining and constituting fact of American life, the way slavery and anti-black racism (which is the residue of slavery)
have been.


Since when?

We will see, in some other posts.
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Umm, Droopy Balls, this is Terrestrial.
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Ah Droopy you are just jealous that she was a guest on John Stewarts Daily show this evening:

http://bycommonconsent.com/2012/08/09/l ... aily-show/

:wink:
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Joanna's getting a lot of "airplay" these days.

That which is popular, of course, is also true.
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Jason Bourne wrote:Ah Droopy you are just jealous that she was a guest on John Stewarts Daily show this evening:

http://bycommonconsent.com/2012/08/09/l ... aily-show/

:wink:


So this means it will be on at 8:30 PM in Salt Lake City, tomorrow night.


by the way, you guys have apparently destabilized Droopy with your criticism. This current Joanna fixation will take time to fade away. Why don't you encourage him on George Soros and Agenda 21 instead?
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Uh oh. Droopy is trying to weed out the "subversive elements".

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Droopy wrote:Joanna's getting a lot of "airplay" these days.

That which is popular, of course, is also true.



It is indeed a dilemma for the Church is it not? As noted before, things are changing. I see concern by leaders about the youth in a different way than I ever have. Young adults are less active. They are less likely to toe the line. They put off marriage longer and are having fewer children. They are more tolerant of diversity.

What will the Church look like in 20 years? It certainly does not look like it did when I was young. Lots of the strong rhoetoric has been abadoned. The lessons aer milk toast elementary school lessons. The Church backpeddles (I am sure Droopy will disagree) from some of its more deep and different doctrines. Just check out Mormonism 101:

http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/mormonism-101

Well we will see. Will the Church retrench? Will it eventually take a hard line stance against the Dehlins, Brooks and evevn the Bushmans and Givens? Will the hard liners win? Maybe? If yes the Chuch will be much smaller I think. Or will it become more open tent like and progressive and tolerant of diversity? If yes it certainly will lose a lot of what it is or has been. Course one thing is certain. The LDS Church has changed and modified over its short history a number of times and has done so to survive grow and thrive. I think it will do so again and again.
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Jason Bourne wrote:I see concern by leaders about the youth in a different way than I ever have. Young adults are less active. They are less likely to toe the line. They put off marriage longer and are having fewer children. They are more tolerant of diversity.


The youth of today are turned off by the anti-gay rhetoric of old geezers. As recently as the 80s, I remember old timers openly making racist remarks. All you can do is roll your eyes and understand that they grew up in a different time. It doesn't do you any good to argue with an 80 year old about social issues. They eventually die off and get replaced by people who grew up in more tolerant times. I think that's the attitude the younger generation has when the old guys talk about "the gays". There is an understanding that these old guys grew up on farms in Utah and they will never change their views. It's the way they are. A church run by men who grew up in Utah in the 50s is totally out of touch with today's young people.
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As part of our ongoing series we like to call Droopy Cannot Maintain A Coherent Thought, we present the following:

Droopy wrote:All social pathologies within the black community that affect blacks at disproportionate, and in some cases vastly disproportionate rates, including a 70% out of wedlock birth rate, massive family breakdown, violence, drug use, gang involvement, and general over-representative criminality; disproportionate welfare dependence and unemployment, precipitous high school drop out rates etc., are understood to be the direct or indirect result of systemic, institutional racism, and not sociocultural dynamics internal to certain segments of the black community itself . . . . . . . . the internal social and cultural dynamics of a substantial subset of the American black community is primarily responsible for the fundamental and apparently intractable problems that afflict that community . . . . present black social pathologies, or to a aspect of black culture that produces people like Tupac Shakur, Snoop Dogg, and Tookie Williams (and countless teenagers and youths who parrot their clothing, mannerisms, attitudes, values, and language) in substantially disproportionate numbers . . . .


VERSUS

Droopy wrote:
“White Mormons face no systemic cultural poverty. They are on par socioeconomically with the rest of America, and in fact fare slightly better in terms of education and affluence.”


Neither do American blacks


Droopy wrote:
“White Mormons have no history of enslavement.”


True but:

1. Neither do any living blacks for born since the late 19th century.


And that is why, to this very day, no living Mormons born since the later 19th century play the persecution card.

2. Mormons had the entire Constitution and Bill of Rights removed from them as American citizens, and became a hunted and persecuted out-group, even, at one point, targeted for extinction by a state government.


The Bill of Rights only applies to the federal government, not to state or local governments. At the time period Droopy's double standard (it's okay for Mormons to bitch about their distant history of being persecuted, but not black people) is referencing, the 14th Amendment did not exist, and thus the incorporation doctrine did not yet exist, either.

Also, I wonder what the context of the extermination order was. Perhaps Droopy could comment on the early Mormons' peaceful relations with their neighbors.

In any event, surely we can all agree that if anyone has history on their side to pontificate about blacks being treated equally, it is a member of the LDS Church.
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DarkHelmet wrote:Uh oh. Droopy is trying to weed out the "subversive elements".

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Poor analogy. There were no "witch hunts" in the fifties against American communists, let alone by Joseph McCarthy, but that's beside the point.

I'm on no "witch hunt" against Joanna Brooks. I'm a critic, and will be a consistent one (I can't seem to post anything at Religion Dispatches personally to her, however. All blog posts there just disappear. If anyone can help me with that, I'd appreciate it) into the foreseeable future.

What I do see here is that, as with John Dehlin, her perspective and approach is so critical and key to a fundamental aspect of the secularist post-Mormon or "New Order" cultural Mormon project that seeks incremental mutation of the Church from within on specifically targeted issues, that she must be protected and shielded from all clear and principled criticism of her views by a wagon-circling brigade that will not engage those criticisms directly, but rather put up a wall of invective and red herrings in the hopes that the substance of such criticism can be deflected and kicked down the road indefinitely.

She's apparently a fragile flower, just like Dehlin, who cannot for a second take what she dishes out.
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