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Written records of homosexual behavior, transvestism, and transgender behavior in Mesoamerica surface during the Spanish Conquest. Stephen notes that �Bernal D�az del Castillo, in an exploration of the coast of Yucat�n in 1517, discovered clay figures in which �the Indians seemed to be engaged in sodomy, one with the other�� (Stephen 49; Sigal 105). This indicates that homosexual behavior was widespread and acceptable enough in indigenous cultures for people to make art that depicted this behavior. Moreover, Requena found that �Bernal D�az recorded that men dressed as women in order to prostitute themselves, and notes that Cortes addressed the people of Veracruz admonishing them to renounce the �custom of male youths appearing in women�s� dress�� and to �give your sodomy and all of your other evil practices�� (Requena). The vilification of sodomy and cross-dressing became the object of major campaigns by Catholic priests in Mesoamerica. Once again, this points to the widespread nature of these practices among the indigenous peoples in Mesoamerica at this time.

Racer wrote:... I would have to assume that Corianton was a real person...

madeleine wrote:Gospel of Thomas Saying 114

Simon Peter said to them, "Mary should leave us, for females are not worthy of life." Jesus said, "See, I am going to attract her to make her male so that she too might become a living spirit that resembles you males. For every female (element) that makes itself male will enter the kingdom of heaven."

quark wrote:

madeleine wrote:Gospel of Thomas Saying 114

Simon Peter said to them, "Mary should leave us, for females are not worthy of life." Jesus said, "See, I am going to attract her to make her male so that she too might become a living spirit that resembles you males. For every female (element) that makes itself male will enter the kingdom of heaven."

Madeleine,

Your quotes never cease to amaze me.

And what might Jesus think of the man (element) that makes itself woman? What might he enter?

quark wrote:

Racer wrote:... I would have to assume that Corianton was a real person...

I don't really see that as a requirement.

Do I need to believe Bilbo Baggins is real when proposing theories about hobbits that aren't explicitly defined in the text?

madeleine wrote:Dunno, the Gnostics made it up. Just reminded me of it by the assertion that a male in Mormon scripture is actually female.

Also, Gnostics were strictly cellibate. A woman "became a man" by fasting,to the point her menstrual cycle ceased.

Racer wrote:You are right. I stand corrected. In fact, I always thought C-3PO was a homosexual even though it was never implicitly implied, and he was a robot without sex organs, and he is not real.

Racer wrote: In fact, I always thought C-3PO was a homosexual even though it was never implicitly implied, and he was a robot without sex organs, and he is not real.