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So, speaking of "Innocence of Muslims" and Mormons

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 4:16 am
by _lulu
The public US face of the inciteful video, Steve Klein, founded Couragous Christians United, which is now located in West Jordon, UT and specializes in "witnessing" at Mormon events.

CCU has quickly disassociated itself from Klein and the video.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/1 ... 82595.html

http://www.courageouschristiansunited.org/

Photos from their presence at Brigham City Temple open house.
http://www.courageouschristiansunited.o ... ter-228965

Re: So, speaking of "Innocence of Muslims" and Mormons

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:48 pm
by _bcspace
The only thing of note here is the savage reaction Muslims have when their faith is denigrated and the hypocrisy of liberals who will denigrate any faith except Islam (because they're afraid of it).

Re: So, speaking of "Innocence of Muslims" and Mormons

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:00 pm
by _Chap
bcspace wrote:The only thing of note here is the savage reaction Muslims have when their faith is denigrated and the hypocrisy of liberals who will denigrate any faith except Islam (because they're afraid of it).


I have been under circumstances where expressing any outspoken criticism of the tenets of Islam, or of cultural practices that ordinary people believe to be part of Islam, might have been physically risky. Under those circumstances I considered that staying alive (or at least at liberty and uninjured) was more of a priority than expressing my opinions. What, I wonder, would bcspace have done?

I don't see why having had that experience means I would be a hypocrite if I expressed criticisms of any religion under other circumstances, when that criticism would not involve risk to life, limb, or liberty.

Re: So, speaking of "Innocence of Muslims" and Mormons

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:30 pm
by _MCB
Funny. As a native of Hancock County Illinois and a descendant of one of the men who marched on the Carthage jail on June 27, 1844, I spent 1/3 of my life fearing to say anything critical about Mormonism. To the point that I ended up cowering in a corner afraid to THINK anything critical of Mormonism.

I considered that staying at liberty and uninjured was more of a priority than expressing my opinions.
Thanks for the consoling thought.

Re: So, speaking of "Innocence of Muslims" and Mormons

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:44 pm
by _why me
MCB wrote:Funny. I spent 1/3 of my life fearing to say anything critical about Mormonism. To the point that I ended up cowering in a corner afraid to THINK anything critical of Mormonism.



It was my impression that you were never a Mormon. So, why would you fear to say something critical of Mormonism?

Re: So, speaking of "Innocence of Muslims" and Mormons

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:48 pm
by _why me
bcspace wrote:The only thing of note here is the savage reaction Muslims have when their faith is denigrated and the hypocrisy of liberals who will denigrate any faith except Islam (because they're afraid of it).


You are right. It is perfectly okay to mock, bash, ridicule, and speak lowly of Mormonism. And call the Book of Mormon a fraud....but the koran...nope, they will not call it a fraud nor will they mock islam.

And then we have the temple ceremony on youtube something the Mormons consider to be sacred. However Mormons are not violent.

Re: So, speaking of "Innocence of Muslims" and Mormons

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:23 pm
by _EAllusion
To burst the false narrative you've built for yourself whyme, both Islam and Mormonism are false religions. Happy?

Re: So, speaking of "Innocence of Muslims" and Mormons

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:28 pm
by _Chap
EAllusion wrote:To burst the false narrative you've built for yourself whyme, both Islam and Mormonism are false religions. Happy?


There is another kind?

Re: So, speaking of "Innocence of Muslims" and Mormons

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:58 am
by _huckelberry
why me wrote:
bcspace wrote:The only thing of note here is the savage reaction Muslims have when their faith is denigrated and the hypocrisy of liberals who will denigrate any faith except Islam (because they're afraid of it).


You are right. It is perfectly okay to mock, bash, ridicule, and speak lowly of Mormonism. And call the Book of Mormon a fraud....but the koran...nope, they will not call it a fraud nor will they mock islam.

And then we have the temple ceremony on youtube something the Mormons consider to be sacred. However Mormons are not violent.


I am a liberal and I do not mock,bash, ridicule Mormonism or other religions. I am willing to state I do not believe the book or Mormon or doctrine and covenants to be true or to have authority. I view Islam similarly. Both Mormonism and Islam have some ideas I do not like. I think Islam approach to defectors is a larger malignancy than any idea I am aware of in Mormonism.

I have no desire to see a video of temple activities. I do not wish to participate.

Re: So, speaking of "Innocence of Muslims" and Mormons

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:19 am
by _MCB
Radical anti-Mormons choose to mock superficial aspects of Mormonism. I am much more concerned about the bigotry of radical Mormons.