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Bob Loblaw wrote:Boyd K. Packer has repeatedly counseled that members should not go to their bishops for counseling.
just me wrote:
We seem to be developing an epidemic of “counselitis” which drains spiritual strength from the Church much like the common cold drains more strength out of humanity than any other disease. …
Speaking figuratively, many a bishop keeps on the corner of his desk a large stack of order forms for emotional relief.
When someone comes with a problem, the bishop, unfortunately, without a question, passes them out, without stopping to think what he is doing to his people. …If my boy needs counseling, bishop, it should be my responsibility first, and yours second.
If my boy needs recreation, bishop, I should provide it first, and you second.
If my boy needs correction, that should be my responsibility first, and yours second.
If I am failing as a father, help me first, and my children second.
Do not be too quick to take over from me the job of raising my children.
Do not be too quick to counsel them and solve all of the problems. Get me involved. It is my ministry.
We live in a day when the adversary stresses on every hand the philosophy of instant gratification. We seem to demand instant everything, including instant solutions to our problems. …
It was meant to be that life would be a challenge. To suffer some anxiety, some depression, some disappointment, even some failure is normal.
Teach our members that if they have a good, miserable day once in a while, or several in a row, to stand steady and face them. Things will straighten out.
There is great purpose in our struggle in life.
Spiritual independence and self-reliance is a sustaining power in the Church. If we rob the members of that, how can they get revelation for themselves? How will they know there is a prophet of God? How can they get answers to prayers? How can they know for sure for themselves?
We live in a day when the adversary stresses on every hand the philosophy of instant gratification. We seem to demand instant everything, including instant solutions to our problems. …
It was meant to be that life would be a challenge. To suffer some anxiety, some depression, some disappointment, even some failure is normal.
However, in this day and age, I am still surprised by the amount of LDS women who come through my office saying things like: “If I don’t want to have sex in my marriage, my husband should be OK with that. He needs to control his passions.” “I have no need for sex – my husband just has to get over it.” “Sex is not necessary for marital happiness.”
just me wrote:Wow. Let people suffer nigh unto death before you provide the solution you have been sitting on the whole time??? Asshole.
We wouldn't want him counseling peeps anyway!
Tchild wrote:From the site -- anecdotal comments in the article that LDS women find that sex is not necessary to a "happy marriage":However, in this day and age, I am still surprised by the amount of LDS women who come through my office saying things like: “If I don’t want to have sex in my marriage, my husband should be OK with that. He needs to control his passions.” “I have no need for sex – my husband just has to get over it.” “Sex is not necessary for marital happiness.”
Ok - For you LDS men that get these responses - Take away the money for shopping trips, the Cadillac Escalade/BMW/Suburban...or whatever the spoiled brat of a sexless wife demands from you. Take away the vacations, the fancy dinners, jewelry, etc etc.
Hey if sex isn't necessary for a "happy marriage", then neither is the materialistic consumerism that a man labors and stresses to provide for his thankless wife.
If my wife gave me those lines, she would be eating Top Ramon 'till she begged me for a divorce.
Men - Time to beat some sense into your wives.
just me wrote:Make sure she understands that sex is currency. It'll make her hot between the legs.
