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Various national media have gotten wind of the upcoming Disciplinary Council for the MormonThink.com Editor, and they have contacted us, so the news is going nationwide.

We appreciate so much already the show of support expressed on the various message boards, and we are pleased to know that our efforts have made a difference in so many lives. Many have offered various forms of help, and have asked what they can do. At this point, here is how you can help us.

We are holding a show of support for free speech and to protest intimidation and censorship by the Mormon church. We would love to see a great turnout for MormonThink and our editor. This will be at two locations simultaneously the evening before the Disciplinary Council, on Saturday, September 29, 2012 both in Salt Lake City, UT at 5:00 p.m. MT around SLC Temple Square, and in Orlando, Florida, 7:00 p.m. ET near the Orlando Temple on Windy Ridge Rd. I am in charge of the one in Orlando. We could use a leader for the one in Salt Lake City.

Many have also volunteered to come onboard MormonThink as current members in good standing. If you are seriously interested in making factual contributions to MormonThink as current members in good standing, please contact us at MormonThink@hotmail.com. Although I have resigned, let's see the church try to excommunicate all other MT contributors!

An observation from the Middle East that I hope will not be a derail:

With the success of "Book of Mormon" on Broadway, Mitt Romney's self-induced campaign implosion, Monson's developing dementia, and the (hopefully) upcoming media coverage of an attempt by the LDS Church to excommunicate a member in good standing for publishing facts about Mormonism, the "Mormon Moment" is beginning to look more like the Arab Spring.

By definition, free speech and censorship apply to relations with a government. Doesn't apply to membership in a voluntary organization which has its own right to say what it thinks about conditions of membership. As well, a voluntary organization has the constitutional right of association to state the terms of membership.

It could be equally said (and would be equally without merit) that you are trying to silence local church leaders and change the terms of association. I suggest using different buzzwords.

Yahoo Bot wrote:By definition, free speech and censorship apply to relations with a government. Doesn't apply to membership in a voluntary organization which has its own right to say what it thinks about conditions of membership. As well, a voluntary organization has the constitutional right of association to state the terms of membership.

It could be equally said (and would be equally without merit) that you are trying to silence local church leaders and change the terms of association. I suggest using different buzzwords.

Yahoo Bot,

For once, I agree with you.

Couching the struggle in terms free speech and censorship is wide of the mark.

If it were up to me, I would describe the confrontation in terms of illegal corporate attempts to intimidate and silence a whistleblower.

Massive and longterm fraud is at issue here.

Buzzwords are important. You can discriminate against people simply by using the correct buzzwords like "Protection of Family Values".

MormonThink is not thinking too clearly about this issue. They would like to undermine the LDS church and still be members of that church. Not possible. Gone they are. However the good news is once they are gone, they will be free to write what they wish on MormonThink.

DrW wrote:
If it were up to me, I would describe the confrontation in terms of illegal corporate attempts to intimidate and silence a whistleblower.

Massive and longterm fraud is at issue here.

So MormonThink is whistleblowing? How is that prolds? How does that not undermine the LDS church. They can blow as many whistles they want once they are out of the church. No problem.

why me wrote:

DrW wrote:
If it were up to me, I would describe the confrontation in terms of illegal corporate attempts to intimidate and silence a whistleblower.

Massive and longterm fraud is at issue here.

So MormonThink is whistleblowing?

You apparently fail to grasp the meaning and implications of the term "whistleblower". Perhaps you could look up the term in a good dictionary.

How is that prolds?

MormonThink strives to be tell the truth. If the truth is not "pro LDS" than that is the problem of the LDS Church, not MormonThink.

How does that not undermine the LDS church.

Please refer to response immediately above.

They can blow as many whistles they want once they are out of the church. No problem.

Trust me when I say that excommunicating the Editor of a well respected and truthful website regarding the Mormonism at this point in time would be a big mistake for the LDS Church. (Sort of like Romney and his 47%.)

Thank you for everyone's support. We have received numerous volunteers from members in good standing to come onboard MormonThink. We will continue to accept more, so the LDS church can never get all of them excommunicated.

An additional way to support MormonThink is what some of you are already doing. Post your comments of support in the comments section following news articles.

Due to the Stake President's cancellation of the Disciplinary Council on Sept. 30th for David Twede, managing editor of MormonThink, http://www.postmormon.org/exp_e/index.p ... 88/#554551, the shows of support are also cancelled that were scheduled for this Saturday, Sept. 29th.
They were scheduled for 5:00 pm MT at the SLC temple, and 7:00 pm ET at the Orlando temple. Both are now cancelled.

Thanks everyone!

why me wrote:MormonThink is not thinking too clearly about this issue. They would like to undermine the LDS church and still be members of that church. Not possible. Gone they are. However the good news is once they are gone, they will be free to write what they wish on MormonThink.

Undermine no, not at all. We only want the members to know what we know about Mormon history - the stuff they don't teach you in Sunday School. They can do whatever they want with the information but they need to know everything so they can make an informed decision.

I personally would prefer it if all the members discovering the truth would actually stay in the church, then we could affect real change and start teaching everything the way it really happened and no more faith-promoting stories that are bogus.

The church has a lot of members and that can be an incredible source for good - but they deserve to know all the facts, don't they?