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LDS Church values snitches over free speech

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 2:31 pm
by _sock puppet
Somehow David's Mormon leaders think it was wrong of David not to have used his full name, but they hide the snitch's name?

David Twede, 47, a scientist, novelist, and fifth-generation Mormon, is managing editor of MormonThink.com, an online magazine produced largely by members of the Mormon Church that welcomes scholarly debate about the religion’s history from both critics and true believers.

A Mormon in good standing, Twede has never been disciplined by Latter Day Saints leadership. But it now appears his days as a Mormon may be numbered because of a series of articles he wrote this past week that were critical of Mitt Romney.

On Sunday, Twede says his bishop, stake president, and two church executives brought him into Florida Mormon church offices in Orlando and interrogated him for nearly an hour about his writings, telling him, "Cease and desist, Brother Twede."

Mormon leaders have scheduled an excommunication "for apostasy" on Sept. 30. A spokesman for the church told The Daily Beast that the church would not be commenting for this story.

In an exclusive interview with The Daily Beast, Twede says that during the interrogation he felt “attacked, cornered, and very anxious."

The four church leaders verbally chastised him, he says, for hiding his identity on MormonThink and his personal blog in order to avoid discipline. Twede, who writes using only his first name, says they kept asking him why he didn’t identify himself online if he had nothing to hide.

“I told them I hide my name precisely because of things like this,” he says.
“I said, ‘Look how fast you got to me.’ I know a lot of members don’t want their life disturbed. In the Mormon church, if you’re not part of the uniform group, you are ostracized.”

Twede asked church leaders how they came up with his name so fast after posting the articles. They wouldn't tell him, ...
The Daily Beast, Mormons Want to Excommunicate Romney Critic

So Mormonism values snitching ahead of free expression, actively hiding the identity of a snitch but impugning the motives and character of someone who exercises the right of free speech?

Well, if it's not acceptable to compare Mormonism to the Nazis, how about to the SS and their tactics?

It seems some of JSJr's traditions have continued down to this very day.

Re: LDS Church values snitches over free speech

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:50 pm
by _bcspace
But it now appears his days as a Mormon may be numbered because of a series of articles he wrote this past week that were critical of Mitt Romney


I highly doubt that's the reason. The previous paragraph might give a clue though.

Re: LDS Church values snitches over free speech

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:26 pm
by _3sheets2thewind
Snitching is a requirement of all BYU students.

Too bad David Twede just didn't deny his online activities, that would have forced them too expose who the snitch is.

However if this is happening in Florida, I wouldn't be suprised floridians religious fanaticism rivals that of bscspace fanaticism or people from the US Midwest.

Re: LDS Church values snitches over free speech

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:55 pm
by _Bob Loblaw
bcspace wrote:I highly doubt that's the reason. The previous paragraph might give a clue though.


Inviting debate between believers and nonbelievers is an excommunicable offense these days? :eek:

Re: LDS Church values snitches over free speech

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:13 pm
by _son of Ishmael
Bob Loblaw wrote:
bcspace wrote:I highly doubt that's the reason. The previous paragraph might give a clue though.


Inviting debate between believers and nonbelievers is an excommunicable offense these days? :eek:



What is next, thought crimes?

Re: LDS Church values snitches over free speech

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:51 pm
by _hatersinmyward
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Re: LDS Church values snitches over free speech

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:25 pm
by _Dr. Shades
hatersinmyward wrote:The wife of a close relative has recently divorced one of my close relatives. She started fearing for her families safety after some our loved ones were hurt. She knows she cannot turn to the police or clergy because they will laugh in her face.

No they won't. They'll investigate. That's their job.

Many of the Police have become bitter because they now know the LDS Religion is no is a lie. These Police don't want to face that fact and have become psychotic. Other Police are frightened to acknowledge or deal with this situation knowing their bosses are LDS and might punish them.

What does the LDS church have to do with your loved ones being hurt? You're not making the connection.

One of our LDS Leaders was open to the possibility the TOP 15 Would acknowledge the issue.

Why would the Top 15 even care about the issue? They're not cops.

On the downside our LDS leader is a Cop.
He won't sacrifice his loved ones for the greater good, She won't sacrifice her's and I wont sacrifice mine.

He doesn't need to sacrifice his loved ones for the greater good. He just needs to do his job.

So lets for instance say I wasn't communicating with God directly.

You're most likely not communicating with God directly.

The only quazi real source for information I have is the NODE implanted into my wrist by the NSA. Which is used to track my every move and every thought "through this countries Electrical System" not Phone, not GPS, the Electrical System.

Then why don't you cut it out or otherwise have it surgically removed? Plus, why did you let them put it there in the first place, and why would they care enough about you to monitor you and not anyone else?

Why do this Nation's top leaders avoid me? Because they hired crazy cult members that might screw this country over on a whim if their religion turned out to be lie.

This nation's top leaders don't avoid you. They just don't know you exist.

Re: LDS Church values snitches over free speech

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:41 am
by _MCB
HimW:

Because they hired crazy cult members that might screw this country over on a whim if their religion turned out to be lie.
I suspect that you are running with theories and treating them as truth. The cult is an expert at driving their enemies crazy. That is not your fault. It is their methodology, to discredit their enemies. You have a very interesting set of theories, but I really don't think any conspiracy would have that kind of power. It may have started with injustices against you, but you have bottled these thoughts up until you began to treat them as reality. You need to find someone you can trust, and get to the bottom of it.

Actually, some of your theories resemble some of the theories I once held. That is what set me off on a research project, to get to the bottom of it, with documentation and FACTS. CFR.

God be with you, and I really mean it.

People who are paranoid nearly always have something to be paranoid about.

Re: LDS Church values snitches over free speech

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 2:04 am
by _Hades
MCB wrote:3SttW:

Because they hired crazy cult members that might screw this country over on a whim if their religion turned out to be lie.
People who are paranoid nearly always have something to be paranoid about.

hatersinmyward, please seek help. I'm going to guess that you have a drug addiction. I'm also going to guess that it's one of those drugs that make you paranoid.

Re: LDS Church values snitches over free speech

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 2:10 am
by _MCB
Good observation, but it might even be a Dr. prescribed med gone haywire. Paxil, for example, can really backfire. False accusations of drug abuse can be another one of their strategies.