Polygamy vis-a-vis Monogamy
Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:32 pm
Monogamy is marriage with only one person at a time. While married, having sexual intercourse with anyone other than your spouse renders you to be an adulterer. (If you have sexual intercourse with anyone when you are not married, then you are a mere fornicator.)
What value is there in monogamy?
[What? The Lord God does not delight also in the chastity of men? Sexist!]
So god delights in the chastity of women, and does not like men whoring around because it upsets women. Apparently if a guy can keep his promiscuity with women already not chaste, and on the sly from his wife, then elohim is okay with it. The guy is not sullying chaste women, and because he keeps it on the sly from his wife, no sorrow and crying for elohim to have to hear from the wife.
So it seems the rationale for monogamy, per the Book of Mormon, is god, a man, likes his women chaste and doesn't like to hear them sorrowful and sobbing. Men's chastity--not so much, not worth mentioning. But he'll be in favor of men spreading their seed beyond just their wives if needed to raise up a seed unto god. Given mankind's sexual drive, there's always lots of seed sprouting up.
So, that seems to be the Mormon scriptural rationale for monogamy. God likes women to be chaste, and doesn't like them sorrowful and sobbing.
So, with that context, why polygamy? Well, its when needed to raise up a seed unto god. Now, we know that in BY's time at least, he taught that elohim and Mary physically copulated to conceive a body for jehovah. So, 'a seed unto god'? That seems to not require JSJr or his co-horts in promiscuity to be siring this seed, and how would that be seed unto god if it is not god's seed that is being sowed like he did with Mary?
Just "many wives" (as well as concubines and whoredoms) is an abomination to god, except when he needed them to raise up a seed unto god. So, since sexless marriages do not raise up seed to god or to any other man, if JSJr, BY, JT, etc has sexless marriages, those were abominations to the Mormon god. A greater iniquity than those of the Lamanites!
So, if JSJr's multiple 'wives' involved sexual relations that could lead to seed (to whomever raised up), it seems the Mormon god really misfired. Almost as spectacularly as bcspace misfires when he asks rhetorically, "have you checked the children?" Yea, bc, that's the point. The lack of children places JSJr in the middle of an abomination--'many wives' but no seed from them.
At best it seems it took JSJr how many 'wives' extra to Emma to perhaps get one possible child.
Wow, and what about Emma's sorrow about JSJr promiscuity? Why wouldn't JT's seed do with these other women 'married' to JSJr if JT's first wife was okay with polygamy and not sorrowful?
Any way you slice it, JSJr's polygamy doesn't stand up to the passages from the most perfect book on earth that address it.
Of course, the dynastic sealing aspect wasn't in the Book of Mormon when it was written because that justification had been concocted by the author of the Book of Mormon at the time it was written. Didn't see the dynastic sealing exception in Jacob 2, did you?
And how is any adulterous affair not creating a bond, to one degree or another, between those involved?
I suppose that by the time JSJr was writing Jacob 2, he'd already cheated on Emma, the affair was over, and he was trying in his mind and through the 'translated' passages from the 'gold plates' to recommit to fidelity to Emma. Well, that didn't last long, and JSJr later returned to his adultery, like a dog to its vomit, and his conscience needed the salve of claiming god commanded it.
What value is there in monogamy?
Book of Mormon Jacob 1:15–17 wrote:the people of Nephi ... began to grow hard in their hearts, and indulge themselves somewhat in wicked practices, such as like unto David of old, desiring many wives and concubines, and also Solomon, his son.... Wherefore, I, Jacob, gave unto them these words as I taught them in the temple, having firstly obtained mine errand from the Lord.
Book of Mormon Jacob 2:23-24 wrote:This people begin to wax in iniquity; they understand not the scriptures, for they seek to excuse themselves in committing whoredoms, because of the things which were written concerning David, and Solomon his son. Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.
Book of Mormon Jacob 2:27-28 wrote:Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none; For I, the Lord God, delight in the chastity of women. And whoredoms are an abomination before me; thus saith the Lord of Hosts.
[What? The Lord God does not delight also in the chastity of men? Sexist!]
Book of Mormon Jacob 2:30-33, 34 wrote:For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall hearken unto these things. For behold, I, the Lord, have seen the sorrow, and heard the mourning of the daughters of my people in the land of Jerusalem, yea, and in all the lands of my people, because of the wickedness and abominations of their husbands. And I will not suffer, saith the Lord of Hosts, that the cries of the fair daughters of this people, which I have led out of the land of Jerusalem, shall come up unto me against the men of my people, saith the Lord of Hosts. For they shall not lead away captive the daughters of my people because of their tenderness, save I shall visit them with a sore curse, even unto destruction; for they shall not commit whoredoms, like unto them of old, saith the Lord of Hosts. * * * Behold, ye have done greater iniquities than the Lamanites, our brethren. Ye have broken the hearts of your tender wives, and lost the confidence of your children, because of your bad examples before them; and the sobbings of their hearts ascend up to God against you.
So god delights in the chastity of women, and does not like men whoring around because it upsets women. Apparently if a guy can keep his promiscuity with women already not chaste, and on the sly from his wife, then elohim is okay with it. The guy is not sullying chaste women, and because he keeps it on the sly from his wife, no sorrow and crying for elohim to have to hear from the wife.
So it seems the rationale for monogamy, per the Book of Mormon, is god, a man, likes his women chaste and doesn't like to hear them sorrowful and sobbing. Men's chastity--not so much, not worth mentioning. But he'll be in favor of men spreading their seed beyond just their wives if needed to raise up a seed unto god. Given mankind's sexual drive, there's always lots of seed sprouting up.
So, that seems to be the Mormon scriptural rationale for monogamy. God likes women to be chaste, and doesn't like them sorrowful and sobbing.
So, with that context, why polygamy? Well, its when needed to raise up a seed unto god. Now, we know that in BY's time at least, he taught that elohim and Mary physically copulated to conceive a body for jehovah. So, 'a seed unto god'? That seems to not require JSJr or his co-horts in promiscuity to be siring this seed, and how would that be seed unto god if it is not god's seed that is being sowed like he did with Mary?
Just "many wives" (as well as concubines and whoredoms) is an abomination to god, except when he needed them to raise up a seed unto god. So, since sexless marriages do not raise up seed to god or to any other man, if JSJr, BY, JT, etc has sexless marriages, those were abominations to the Mormon god. A greater iniquity than those of the Lamanites!
So, if JSJr's multiple 'wives' involved sexual relations that could lead to seed (to whomever raised up), it seems the Mormon god really misfired. Almost as spectacularly as bcspace misfires when he asks rhetorically, "have you checked the children?" Yea, bc, that's the point. The lack of children places JSJr in the middle of an abomination--'many wives' but no seed from them.
At best it seems it took JSJr how many 'wives' extra to Emma to perhaps get one possible child.
Wow, and what about Emma's sorrow about JSJr promiscuity? Why wouldn't JT's seed do with these other women 'married' to JSJr if JT's first wife was okay with polygamy and not sorrowful?
Any way you slice it, JSJr's polygamy doesn't stand up to the passages from the most perfect book on earth that address it.
Of course, the dynastic sealing aspect wasn't in the Book of Mormon when it was written because that justification had been concocted by the author of the Book of Mormon at the time it was written. Didn't see the dynastic sealing exception in Jacob 2, did you?
And how is any adulterous affair not creating a bond, to one degree or another, between those involved?
I suppose that by the time JSJr was writing Jacob 2, he'd already cheated on Emma, the affair was over, and he was trying in his mind and through the 'translated' passages from the 'gold plates' to recommit to fidelity to Emma. Well, that didn't last long, and JSJr later returned to his adultery, like a dog to its vomit, and his conscience needed the salve of claiming god commanded it.