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When will apologists finally GET IT?
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 9:13 am
by _Polygamy-Porter
Mormon apologetics continues to help members leave LDS Inc.
Had Scott Gordon kept his snitch mouth shut, MormonThink.com would NOT have received so damn much free press.
Today,
Chicago Tribune picked up the story.
LA Times tomorrow?
Not only has his actions hurt LDS Inc by helping to remove current tithe payers and the generations of lost tithes payers, but his actions have undoubtedly help any would be investigator to think twice about joining LDS Inc.
And Dano is still butt hurt over being fired.
The most damage to LDS Inc is from within you fools!
Just keep doing what you all pious egomaniac apologists do.
It makes my job even easier.
Re: When will apologists finally GET IT?
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 3:38 pm
by _sock puppet
It is slowly imploding.
Re: When will apologists finally GET IT?
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:44 pm
by _cwald
Polygamy-Porter wrote:Mormon apologetics continues to help members leave..
Not only has his actions hurt LDS Inc by helping to remove current tithe payers and the generations of lost tithes payers, but his actions have undoubtedly help any would be investigator to think twice about joining LDS Inc.
And Dano is still butt hurt over being fired.
The most damage to LDS Inc is from within you fools!
Just keep doing what you all pious egomaniac apologists do.....
Yep. I was a fence sitter, disgruntled Mormon who went to apologists and MAD for help and answers. It was the final straw. And how ironic, they still believe it was all you apostates here at MD that caused my shelf to completely crash.
Re: When will apologists finally GET IT?
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 8:27 pm
by _Racer
The church and their apologists have been very slow to learn the principals of the Streisand Effect
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effectin this internet age, and therefore end up bringing more attention to an issue than had they just kept their damn mouths shut.
Karma is a bee-yotch. Maybe Scott Gordon won't feel the karmic sting for ratting on David Twede and causing Twede's family undue stress, but the church most certainly is feeling the sting 10 fold with all the media coverage and increased traffic to Mormonthink. The whole story reinforces the restrictive cult-like image they are desperately trying to shed. Who knows how many potential investigators or struggling members who probably never would have heard about Mormonthink will now visit the site and learn about all the dirty laundry the church wishes would disappear. Bravo Scott! Bravo!
Re: When will apologists finally GET IT?
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 8:41 pm
by _sansfoy
As a percentage of the population of the church, I'm sure the impact of this incident will be relatively minor. I doubt that Scot Gordon caused the loss of more than a few thousand testimonies through his actions. He can make this up by submitting five names a week for posthumous temple work for the next 15-25 years. This will balance the equation of souls brought into the church with souls driven from the church, assuming all of those dead souls accept the work.
Re: When will apologists finally GET IT?
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 8:47 pm
by _sansfoy
In March and April I received two letters from readers of one of my books saying they had been investigating the church and decided to join after reading the positive things I had to say about LDS faith communities. I find it amusing and ironic to think that I've been bringing people into the church this year* while uber-apologist Scott Gordon is causing them to leave.
*If someone joins the church after reading my book, there is no way they do so as anything but Sunstone Mormons.
Re: When will apologists finally GET IT?
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 9:53 pm
by _Polygamy-Porter
sansfoy wrote:As a percentage of the population of the church, I'm sure the impact of this incident will be relatively minor. I doubt that Scot Gordon caused the loss of more than a few thousand testimonies through his actions. He can make this up by submitting five names a week for posthumous temple work for the next 15-25 years. This will balance the equation of souls brought into the church with souls driven from the church, assuming all of those dead souls accept the work.
The only thing that "works for the dead" do is keep the tithes aflowin'
Re: When will apologists finally GET IT?
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:41 pm
by _KevinSim
sock puppet wrote:It is slowly imploding.
People from within the LDS Church have for a long time talked about how very soon now Jesus is going to come again, and that'll change the whole world, to the extent that my little sister has officially decided to stop thinking about it. I mean, if it really has been imminent over the fifty years that she has been alive, why hasn't it actually happened? So the Second Coming is a non-issue for her.
I personally think that the Second Coming is important, and we should prepare for it, but when people claim it's going to happen within the next couple of years, or even in the next decade, I get skeptical. It could happen tomorrow, but it could also happen in 10,000 years, or 100,000.
I have the same attitude toward people who say the LDS Church is imploding. Critics have been saying it's imploding for
at least as long as active members have been saying Jesus is going to come again soon.
Re: When will apologists finally GET IT?
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:42 pm
by _sock puppet
cwald wrote:Polygamy-Porter wrote:Mormon apologetics continues to help members leave..
Not only has his actions hurt LDS Inc by helping to remove current tithe payers and the generations of lost tithes payers, but his actions have undoubtedly help any would be investigator to think twice about joining LDS Inc.
And Dano is still butt hurt over being fired.
The most damage to LDS Inc is from within you fools!
Just keep doing what you all pious egomaniac apologists do.....
Yep. I was a fence sitter, disgruntled Mormon who went to apologists and MAD for help and answers. It was the final straw. And how ironic, they still believe it was all you apostates here at MD that caused my shelf to completely crash.
Damnit, cwald. I had you down as one of my un-baptisms, notched in my belt and all. Trying to negate the damage to humanity that I did on a Mormon mission lo those many years ago.
Re: When will apologists finally GET IT?
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:44 pm
by _Polygamy-Porter
KevinSim wrote:I have the same attitude toward people who say the LDS Church is imploding. Critics have been saying it's imploding for at least as long as active members have been saying Jesus is going to come again soon.
The internet is killing both Jesus and LDS Inc.