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When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
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When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.

Martin Niemoller


Is anyone else as disturbed by the un-Christian behavior of Scott Gordon as I am? I guess the silver lining in all of this is that Church has stepped in and shut Scott down.

One can imagine the logical outcome if Scott Gordon were to continue his personal witch hunt for any LDS who he does not agree with.

Harry Reid, Joanna Brooks, any Democrat and many more would find themselves on the receiving end of Scott Gordon snitching them out and attempting to have them sent to a disciplinary council.

There is no place in the Church today for a self appointed nanny who snitches on good people that he happens to disagree with.

Kudos to the Church for shutting Scott Gordon up. My hope is that Scott Gordon, DCP, Bill Hamblin and others will finally realize that they are a dying breed.

The Church has grown up, and unfortunately for the Mopologists, has outgrown them. Many in the Church leadership now view the Mopologists as dinosaurs and the Mopologists don't even know it.

Is Twede really out of the woods, though? I was under the impression that his Church court was merely postponed. I know that they have not scheduled a date for the new court, but I think that Twede may be "counting his chickens" a little prematurely.

liz3564 wrote:Is Twede really out of the woods, though? I was under the impression that his Church court was merely postponed. I know that they have not scheduled a date for the new court, but I think that Twede may be "counting his chickens" a little prematurely.

Hello Liz,

I am privy to a little information from the COB that leads me to believe there will not be another court scheduled for David Twede.

I have to leave it at that.

Everybody Wang Chung wrote:

liz3564 wrote:Is Twede really out of the woods, though? I was under the impression that his Church court was merely postponed. I know that they have not scheduled a date for the new court, but I think that Twede may be "counting his chickens" a little prematurely.

Hello Liz,

I am privy to a little information from the COB that leads me to believe there will not be another court scheduled for Scott Twede.

I have to leave it at that.

We probably won't know until after the election. If Romney wins they may not want to go after him for fear of bad PR. If Romney loses the main media won't give a rats ass about it.

by the way I think Romney winning would be good for the church, just not the way most TBM"s think it would be, but then the polls don't look good. Maybe God really is in charge of the church.

Everybody Wang Chung wrote:

liz3564 wrote:Is Twede really out of the woods, though? I was under the impression that his Church court was merely postponed. I know that they have not scheduled a date for the new court, but I think that Twede may be "counting his chickens" a little prematurely.

Hello Liz,

I am privy to a little information from the COB that leads me to believe there will not be another court scheduled for Scott Twede.

I have to leave it at that.

Well, frankly, I hope that is the case. I don't think he should have had a court called on him to begin with. However, it seems like he is doing a bit of grandstanding that is pushing the envelope. It is almost like he is daring them to call another court merely to prove a point that this is all about the election.

liz3564 wrote:Well, frankly, I hope that is the case. I don't think he should have had a court called on him to begin with. However, it seems like he is doing a bit of grandstanding that is pushing the envelope. It is almost like he is daring them to call another court merely to prove a point that this is all about the election.

Liz,

I agree with you. I think David would be best served right now by just dropping the whole issue.

liz3564 wrote:
Well, frankly, I hope that is the case. I don't think he should have had a court called on him to begin with. However, it seems like he is doing a bit of grandstanding that is pushing the envelope. It is almost like he is daring them to call another court merely to prove a point that this is all about the election.

Well since his real life identity has been exposed, he has already been labeled an apostate, his family and friends must be aware of what is going, and his site traffic has increased tenfold, what has he got to lose by taking advantage of the situation? Unless Romney wins, this is the moment to take advantage of for someone in his situation.

Fence Sitter wrote:Well since his real life identity has been exposed, he has already been labeled an apostate, his family and friends must be aware of what is going, and his site traffic has increased tenfold, what has he got to lose by taking advantage of the situation? Unless Romney wins, this is the moment to take advantage of for someone in his situation.

I think he should take advantage of it. So what if he is using social pressure against them? The church does it all the time. He just happened to escalate it and beat them at their own game. Good for him. I say exploit the situation for all it's worth.

Hello Bishop,

While I can't expect that you'd convey such information here and that you will and should protect the integrity of your connections to the COB, I hope that you are able to one day learn whether or not SG tipped the balance in Twede's favor by publicly taking credit for "bringing an apostate down". Given the Church portrays excommunications as "courts of love" in true NewSpeak, to have Mopologists with notorious reputations for online combat advertising their "frags" in national news sources contradicts the Church's spin and makes it look like the Church is "getting even" with critics rather than extending their arm to help them, as they portray themselves.

In my mind, the SCMC has no idea what they're getting themselves into by dealing with apologists. At any rate, it would be interesting to know. I think they learned a valuable lesson this time about how quickly millions spent building a public image can be tarnished by a handful of apologists who take fleeting moments of glory to high-five themselves and towel-snap each other in the locker room rather than working quietly for long-term wins for the organization as a whole.

Everybody Wang Chung wrote:I guess the silver lining in all of this is that Church has stepped in and shut Scott down.

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Kudos to the Church for shutting Scott Gordon up. My hope is that Scott Gordon, DCP, Bill Hamblin and others will finally realize that they are a dying breed.

The Church has grown up, and unfortunately for the Mopologists, has outgrown them.

liz's question about whether it is really shut down for good is valid. If the inquisition re Twede is over, then why the lie about tomorrow's 'court of love' being postponed due to bishop being out of town? If it is truly postponed, if not rescheduled until after Nov 6, that will stink to high heaven. Okay for brother Twede to be leading members out until Nov 6 in hopes that postponing the inquisition until Nov 6 will give brother Romney a chance at the U.S. presidency--better that a few members get mislead to their eternal damnation than that Mormonism loses control over an entire nation? (Sort of sounds familiar.)

I would not go giving atta-boys to the LDS Church just quite yet. Besides, who were the two "Church executives" not identified by so much as official titles? (Twede was willing to identify his bishop and SP as being among the 4 present in the initial stage of the inquisition, but has been vague about the other two.)

Everybody Wang Chung wrote:There is no place in the Church today for a self appointed nanny who snitches on good people that he happens to disagree with.

I think the only ones truly welcome in the LDS Church today below the FP/12 level are self-appointed nannies/snitches. The Mopologetic godhead of Midge, his son Dan and the Holy Hambone just went too far, and didn't add a strong enough dash of sycophancy to go with their three-part Bernardo Gui act.

Everybody Wang Chung wrote:Many in the Church leadership now view the Mopologists as dinosaurs and the Mopologists don't even know it.

Good for the suits. Lesson for Allen Wyatt, Steve Smoot and Greg Smith--until you make the FP/12 ranks, don't get as full of yourself as the Mop godhead did and watch for when you might be being used as a tool from which your principals will shrink after your usefulness has been realized.